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Why did her father slap her?


Was it because she was outside with no shoes or her attitude?

If it's being outside with no shoes, is there a Japanese rule for shoes in all?

I just didn't get that part was all. Please correct me.

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It was because she was barefoot. From what I understand walking barefoot outside is considered "inproper behaviour" in Japan.

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so slapping your child on the face is not "improper behaviour"?
Anyway, I saw that she had socks on - I thought he was mad for getting her socks dirty, but thanks for clearing that up. It's an interesting custom that I would like to delve into further. Was foot-binding a custom there?


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It was the 60s. Slapping your kid when you lost your cool was tolerated here, too, that long ago.

As for the socks, it's sort of equal and opposite to not wearing shoes indoors. And, as such, going outside in your socks defeats the purpose of not wearing shoes inside, because now your socks are dirty.

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I work for a Japanese company, with many Japanese-American colleagues.
They have informed me that it WOULD be considered somewhat "improper"
to go outside barefoot, especially given the time frame (1966) and the
fact the father was very rigidly traditional.

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Well then if what you say is true then the father would have a saw wrist if he ever met Barefoot Gen


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you guys are precious, it's improper in most cultures in the world, specially middle classes.

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http://www.yesjapan.com/culture/culture.mv?houserules
http://www.chickobe.com/CultureTips.htm#Surippa_(house_slippers)_

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ah ok, that explains some of the things I been wondering about the whole shoe issue.

Since Japan has different ways of doing things I wouldn't of known some of those things.

I know someone else would probably ask the same thing about this shoe thing as well.

But thanks for clearling up my question.

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He seemed to be a very firm father, so it is understandable that he would slap her in that situation. He actually seems like a really nice guy, but just expecting dicipline.

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The father hits the child because she walks outside in her socks. In a traditional Japanese culture, this is considered an inappropriate and embarrassing thing, like walking out in your underwear.

The father is somewhat conservative, and his sudden reaction, almost purely reflexive, comes from his own childhood and the world he was raised in.

This scene was taken from the original manga, and was based on the author's own experience. In the comic, she recounts that her father was so upset by his action, he is unable to sleep at all that night.

This scene is shocking also from a dramatic point of view. The father may seem stern and distant, especially to Western eyes, but he holds special affection for his youngest daughter. He calls her with a pet name - "Tae-bo," which is actually boy's name. It's an interesting name for a father of three girls, a wife and mother living under the same roof.

What's noticable to me about this scene is how Taeko's stubbornness and fussiness, at first being made to out to dinner, then not being allowed to carry her sister's handbag (which she just earlier relinquished any claim to), draw out frustration in her mother and older sister, but not the father. He doesn't lose his patience with her, but waits patiently at the door. "Is Tae-bo not coming along?"

The scene is building and something is going to break. The fact that it is the father who strikes out, so suddenly and so violently (the child isn't merely slapped, she's hit and hit hard), makes this all the more shocking, and sad.

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Well said.

That scene shocked me. This movie really did get to me at times.

Taeko was such a tragic character.

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I kinda think the Father was too strict in my opion.

Not saying that he's mean in a way, but more of a serious type of father.

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I kinda think the Father was too strict in my opion.

Not saying that he's mean in a way, but more of a serious type of father.


This was set in the 1960s, i think that explains it all doesn't it. Ie parents would've been a lot stricter back then, and although it did seem a bit much slapping her for such a small thing, i'm sure many kids who grew up in the 1960s were slapped many a time for 'small things'. And she does say it was the first and last time he did it...

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This is gonna make some serious problems with the Disney release. If they ever decide to go ahead and do it, they're going to say that the dad felt really bad afterwards, like he did in the comic this movie is based off of.

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I read one website noting that the father faced a lot of hardships during the war. Course a lot of Japanese citizens who grew up during WW2 would feel the same way.

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There isn't much emotional demonstrativeness in Japan even these days. So Taeko's dad is a product of his culture. I do get the vibe that he really relates to his daughter, though. Maybe she gets her spirited nature from him, and his upbringing repressed his own spirit.

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What's noticable to me about this scene is how Taeko's stubbornness and fussiness, at first being made to out to dinner, then not being allowed to carry her sister's handbag (which she just earlier relinquished any claim to), draw out frustration in her mother and older sister, but not the father. He doesn't lose his patience with her, but waits patiently at the door. "Is Tae-bo not coming along?"

The scene is building and something is going to break. The fact that it is the father who strikes out, so suddenly and so violently (the child isn't merely slapped, she's hit and hit hard), makes this all the more shocking, and sad.


it was especially shocking since she expected her father to come take her since he took some time staring at her...when he left she was shocked and ran after him to show her affection...only to be greeted with an opposite reaction

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For anyone pondering the question of why Taeko's father slapped her, the reply given by Daniel Thomas is still the most accurate and well-rounded response to the question.

Like most Ghibli films, I have watched this numerous times and though I was born, brought up, and live in England, it was obvious on the first viewing that it was, as Daniel points out, a purely reflexive action and something her father deeply regretted (in the film Taeko mentions it was the only time her father ever hit her)

Discovering later that in the original Manga on which the film is based, this scene is extended as it shows the father unable to sleep as he reflects on his actions.

As a child of the seventies, growing up in the UK, physical punishment of children was very much within the spectrum of culturally accepted actions, both in the home and at school - of course, today, things are very different, but judging the father's actions in simple knee-jerk moralistic terms, without a cultural and historical framework does in my opinion do a disservice to the original writer and the film itself.

Her father was a product of his environment and most of us could not imagine having to grow up in Japan during WWII and the deep psychological and physical scars this would have left. This coupled with a Japanese society in the sixties that was very rigid and disciplinarian, is essential to understanding the actions of Taeko's father.

As the much quoted opening sentence of the 1953 novel The Go-Between novel by L. P. Hartley reminds us:

"The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there."

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The scene may shock a lot of Westerners as it is harsh and might even be classified nowadays as abuse. But the truth is the character was asking for it, being sulky and disrespectful. And with the time frame as well (1966) parents were disciplinarians rather than the soft buddy buddy type parent of today. I grew up in the 70's and still remember being hit by a leather belt whenever I did wrong. But I understood I was being punished and none of this wussy type of 'sit on the naughty step' kind of punishment. And to be honest I don't think that would've been as effective. I understand as well that my parents were under a lot of pressure at that time from their own parents, relatives and friends -- on how their children behaved in public. It is a shame that they had to resort to corporal punishment and there was a lack of studies and books at the time with alternative ways to deal with bad bratty behaviour.
Would I hit my own children? Probably the furthest I would go is a slap on the wrist when they have really done something wrong. And this is probably because I was raised that way and part of me does think it works -- but not using belts or canes!
I do love this film and especially the bits where they are obviously naive about their changing bodies (the boys were hilarious) and the ending is just so simple yet utterly heartwrenching! I watched it about 5x and (pathetically) started listening to The Rose by Westlife LOL

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This scene only really shocked US audiences, in Europe and Japan nobody really batted an eyebrow over it (or the bit about periods, either). I suppose American just has more strong liberals and strong conservatives and people in other countries are more centrist more often.

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No its against the law to be physically abusive (eg slapping) your child/children in, as far as I know, most EU countries.
And for a good reason. Hope none of you have any kids. Being hit by a parent can be a trauma for life and not easy for everyone to forgive or forget.. which is why you just dont do it. As a common, general rule.
Im shocked so few of you in here agree. I rarely meet ppl in my country who disagrees with this. And I dont care what culture you are from (or from what time periode the movie is from.) Humans are the same this way so it should be illegal in all countries. Theres no excuse for such behaviour.. if u can't control yourself your not an adult and shouldnt be a parent.
You can look up some basic psychology facts on this issue if you want.. its not hard to find.

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But the truth is the character was asking for it, being sulky and disrespectful.

When you say ASKING FOR IT, do you mean, she knew based on her father's previous behavior towards her that she was stepping over the line, and that, by being disrespectful, she was probably going to get wallopped, and decided her rebellion was worth any punishment he could dish out -- even if it meant getting hit?

Or do you mean, she WANTED to get hit?


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It's pretty obvious Venus30 meant the former.

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ah no I don't think she wanted to get hit or even expected to be hit - her expression is of shock when her dad did hit her, but I meant based on her actions, like she's 'asking for trouble' with her behaviour. I think deep in her heart she knew she was her Dad's favourite daughter and she thought she can get away with stuff. It is ironic that the dad reacted to something she didn't do on purpose ie 'leaving the house barefoot', instead of the 'sulking'.

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i agree. she didn't expect that her dad would slap her. she's a brat and the strangest among the three girls.

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> It is ironic that the dad reacted to something she didn't do on purpose ie 'leaving the house barefoot', instead of the 'sulking'.

I agree--and it's something that really rings true in parenting. A kid can be having a whiny day and putting a strain on a parent's patience, until the kid just takes it up one notch too many and the parent loses it. I think Taeko was just being a bratty kid having a bad day, and her dad slapped her, as Taeko notes in her story, "the first and last time." He'd never hit her before or since, and as someone pointed out earlier about the manga, was so upset himself that he couldn't sleep that night.

Who knows why her dad crossed a line he'd never crossed before? Stressful week at work? Tired of his daughters' fights? It's complex and the movie doesn't explore it, as it's from Taeko's POV, and her dad wouldn't have explained at the time why he did it--she would have been left to cry it out, and time would have smoothed things over.

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Well said, in fact the more I study this movie the more I understand it's surroundings and backgrounds. Glad I started this topic.

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I agree with marsodessy - I'm from Europe (well, England) and was suprised at the reaction people are having to the whole slapping/period scenes. They didn't bother me at all and I could quite understand the motivation.


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It is problematic to say it like that. Hitting a child like that is not ok. It does not matter if they are sceaming their heads off. But humans are flawed.

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What can one say, he was just a *beep* dad. As well as a lazy dad on top of that.
Someone should have splapped that *beep* in return.

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Lazy? How exactly were they affording that home and food? You're a simple person aren't you?

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I didn't say a lazy worker, but a lazy dad. Please pay more attention next time.

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You know... given the time frame of the film, it's comprehendible but still controversial. I've been reading so much smeg on this topic in particular (IE: Corporal Punishment), and I think it's time I unleashed my own $0.02.

"Naughty step" this, "Spare the rod" that... I think authority is sometimes mistaken for socially acceptable ignorance and/or legalised cowardice. However, given the time frame of this film, it shouldn't come as a surprise, but to me, it does. Europe... most of it... doesn't do this and kids turn out just fine. People who resort to such conduct deserve everything they get if you ask me.

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i slapped him back, it took me five years but i did it.

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The root cause is that many Asian men are (nearly) sociopathic.

This reminded me of when my sister and I were playing and screaming/shouting when we were kids.

Our dad told us to stop.

My sister screamed again, so my dad marched into the room and slapped my face.

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In 1960's Japan, it was not unusual for a parent to whack a child on occasion. The fact that the father grew up during the harsh times of WWII could be a factor, but it's never specifically brought up in the movie.

The more important factor is that Taeko, as suggested in various episodes (the menstruation issue, becoming interested in boys, longing for a real lady's purse, etc.), is growing up. The slap could very well be a signal that she's no longer a little kid who can pout and run around improperly attired. Based on what I heard about the original Manga series, this was a learning experience for both father and daughter, and it never happened again.

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The grown-up Taeko says later that she still wonders why she was slapped that one time, the only time. The flashbacks are told from the young Taeko's point of view, so the slap in the face is shown to be totally out of the blue to a child's eye. Her shocked feeling as a child is passed on to us the viewers. Everybody ask yourself: when you were little and got punished by your parents, sometimes you didn't exactly know why. This is the feeling the film tries to convey.

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Now off-topic here, I would think after smacked and crying she would be scared of Dad after that
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Not necessarily. Maybe if she'd had many more prior negative experiences with her dad she might be, but one slap does not immediately make all the good memories disappear.

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