The Maths Test


I don't understand - when they showed the maths test on screen, all the answers were correct and ticked, but the they went on to say that Taeko had completely failed it?

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no, in fact they are all wrong

taeko has multiplied the fractions, instead of dividing

for example, problem 6 : 2/5 divided 3/7 gives
(2x7) / (5x3) = 14/15
but taeko did instead
(2x3) / (5x7) = 6/35
which is wrong.



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Then why were they all ticked? :S

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They're ticked because they're wrong. If they were right, then the paper would have been blank. I guess scoring systems are different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpXwPdJIOJY
Best thing ever.

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Hah! I know what the last one means! It means "No one attacks me with impunity". That was in Edgar Allen Poe's "The Cask of Amontillado".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpXwPdJIOJY
Best thing ever.

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I am not a big fan of this movie, it bored me, but there was one scene that I loved. When she is trying to understand dividing fractions and she uses an apple for an example and she asks why does the number get bigger if you are dividing, and the sister has no explanation for it other than "it just does." I just loved this scene because it shows Taeko's intelligence even though she did poorly in math, and that schools need to explain more rather than saying "it just does."

*Everyone takes something different out of art, don't let anyone else define what you perceive*

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yeah, that scene was amusing... i myself is so confused with dividing fractions too during grade school. thank God i passed Math though..

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No, I don't agree with your opinion for the film. I agree with what you say about the way schools work: Not explaining things, just expecting children to accept the teachers' wisdom without questioning.

This was also the case at the school play:

Taeko made up some lines. The teacher did not say "good lines", or "stupid lines" but just "let's stick to the script". It's again the same kind of attitude: It's not about how good or bad is what you did, it's about doing what you've been told. Without questioning, contributing, being creative, or in general, you're not supposed to have a mind of your own...

(And I think that this is probably why I absolutely adore this film; it raises all these matters and the effects they have on one's feelings, in a very discreet, elegant and efficient manner!)

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My Japanese language teacher puts a circle across correct answers and a tick, or rather a slash, across wrong ones.

I loved the maths scenes too. I remember when my young daughter was working on a TV film the whole unit was drawn into an argument that lasted all day on whether a half divided by a half is a quarter, or one. And the best part of it was that this was happening in Oxford, probably the most intellectual place on the planet.

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A half divided by a quarter is two.

1/2 / 1/4 = 1/2 * 4/1 = 2.

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Indeed. The way I explained it to my daughter was as follows -

When we divide, what are we saying? If the question is "8 divided by 2", we are saying "How many twos are there in eight?" And the answer is "Four". Right? So, when we divide a half by a half, we're saying, "How many halves are there in this half?" "One." How many half-an-apples have you there? And how many quarters is that?

All among the dreaming spires and cloistered halls of Oxford. High-powered stuff!

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It's the easy solution: Force the elder sibling to show her. The elder sibling, who apparently doesn't have homework of her own, nor the right to spare time when she finish it.

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Yoy can tutor me anytime. What a great visualisation for a kid. Then she can delve deeper as she gets older. That sounded sarcastic, lol but I really mean it.

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As a specialty tutor, I recognize what looks like symptoms of dyslexia and/or dyscalculia in Taeko's schoolwork. She's obviously intelligent, and can analyze the problem insightfully while chopping up the apple. Possibly a mediocre or impatient teacher never clearly explained about flipping the second fraction. The sister's inability to grasp Taeko's real-world example of the apple suggests she's a typical "good student" who follows instructions and does her homework well enough to get A's and B's but doesn't have true comprehension.

Taeko's penchant for ad-libbing, making up her own lines while acting, is common for dyslexics. And for anyone who insists she's just being a rascal, that's also a common experience for dyslexics--being persecuted. A lot of parents of dyslexics worry that "something's wrong," as her mother does despite her showing smartness in other subjects.

I wonder if the author of the original manga ever experienced some of the issues Taeko deals with. A lot of my smart-and-dyslexic students favor cartoon writing as a medium for expressing their creativity without the hassle of struggling with long sentences, which traditional prose writing entails. Just wondering.

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