Delia's real mother
Who was Delia's biological mother?
shareKate Reynolds, Damien's loe interest in "The Final Conflict."
share
MovieChat Forums > Omen IV: The Awakening (1991) Discussion > Delia's real mother
Kate Reynolds, a journalist from the Omen III
share[deleted]
You're WAYYY off.
The "university students" angle was just a cover-up at the orphanage. Knight discovered the "parents" had both died in the 30s, and had never met.
The mother's identity is never given...and considering this takes place a decade after THE FINAL CONFLICT, Reynolds seems an unlikely candidate.
However, I loved how McGill had the anal birth/bleeding to death sequence in ARMAGEDDON 2000. Vile, repulsive, and worthy of THE OMEN legacy.
[deleted]
[deleted]
Althought I vaguely remember the last time I watched this film, I do recall (that) the only time they mention DAMIEN's name was near the conclusion when the Delia's adoptive mother (Faye Grant) confronts that evil Doctor. She stabs him in his hand (nailing it to the desk) with a surgical blade, and demands to know who's DAMIEN THORN. The alleged biological father of DELIA.
But what you must also take into consideration, is that DELIA isn't really the sole or absolute inheritor of the Devil's power. She is said to carry within her the Damien's seed in the form of her congenital twin. An unborn fetus whom was removed and later surgically implanted into her adoptive mother's womb. This congential twin, some OMEN fans suggest-and believe- is really DAMIEN's reincarnated body in the form/body of his son.
REzuleta
Damn you folks rock with your fantastic theories . . . I have to get the Omen Armageddon book now, having read the trilogy in my youth. This movie is so bad, it's ALMOST ALMOST good. When it came on tonight Christmas Adam (night before Eve), I thought to myself - could I have been so lucky that such a piece of crap would come on tonight. Yahhhhooo! If anyone can give me the fansite with the conspiracy theories of Damien's spawn (those mentioned in Rezuleta's post), I'd be grateful.
shareI'm watching my DVD of this movie so lets see if we can clear anything up.
First step ... the detective hired to find Delia's real parents tracks down the so-called couple who "Met at university". They never met each othewr and died in the 30's. So ... obviously names and SS numbers were randomly picked for a cover up on the birth cirtificate and as a cover story for the adopted parents.
Earlier in the flm Delia had started menstruating at the age of 8, after which the adopted mother became pregnant. Let's clear that up real quick.
Still watching ...
Okay ... when "mom" is interrogating the doctor he says Damien is Delia's father and that she carried his seed. She was carrying her twin inside of her own body her entire lifetime until it could be implanted ... into her. That's how her baby brother is born.
It doesn't confirm anything about Damien having had an affair as a co ed. It could have been whats-her-names baby from the third Omen. Sorry that I haven't memorized all of the names at this moment in time and don't have them all in front of me. This is all according to the movie, of course, not the books since I haven't read them.
And we know, of course, who baby Alexander is.
... We are all animals my lady. Some of us simply chose not to see it.
Hello there 'RosasDaddio,'
- I found this previous post and some other links which my help back up my comments:
REzuleta
_________________________________________
Re: Alexander
by 'bwaredawolf' (Thu Oct 14 2004 01:58:02)
------------------------------------------------------------------
That was a wonderful, well-written, WRONG post. Delia was NOT Alexander's mother. In the film, it is explained that Delia and Alexander are twins and that Delia had been carrying Alexander until such a time that his fetus could be implanted into a birth-mother (kinda like in utero fertilization). Delia (and Alexander) are adopted and were biologically conceived of Damien Thorn. In the third installment of this franchise, Damien falls for a reporter named Kate Reynolds. It is inferred that Kate is Delia's (and Alexander's) biological mother.
The problem I have concerning this sequel is that the prophecy holds that there will be ONE return of the Anti-Christ and he shall be born of a jackel. Nowhere does it say he can reproduce (which, scientifically speaking would be impossible) and that his offspring would inherit his power and dominance over the evil in the world. That's just my observation.
Thanks,
Brannon
________________________________________
Other LINKS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omen_IV:_The_Awakening
http://www.worldsgreatestcritic.com/omeniv.html
And yet another one posted (much) earlier (by me), with a reference LINK where I found the original quote (info.) from.
REzuleta
________________________________________________
Here's a Funny Quote Concerninng 'DELIA'
by re_zuleta (Sat Dec 27 2003 22:32:40)
UPDATED Mon Jan 26 2004 13:18:39
-----------------------------------------------------------
Here's something funny I found, but sounds kinda mean ....
QUOTE:
..."OMEN IV: The Awakening" starred 'Asia Viera' as Delia, Satan's little girl (aka.'The Damienette') in an obvious move of typecasting. Turns out she's not only Damien Thorn's daughter, but also his sister, and also his mother. This is implied or refered to Alexander, Delia's congenital-twin brother & who's supposed to be Damien's reincarnated soul."
You can find the original comment and the rest of the review at:
[ http://www.xmission.com/%7Etyranist/horror/reviews/o/Omen4.html ]
wasn't Dehlia birth mother the lady who was bitten by rattle snake in omen 4?
DarkAlessa now the end of day and Iam the Reaper:silent hill
Yes, but this topic or fact is up for debate by die hard fans of the series.
Some think that the real mother of Delia and Alexander was really 'Kate Reynolds' the reporter from "Omen III-The Final Conflict"(1981). This is infact the sub-plot to the book sequels 'Omen IV-Armageddon 2000' and 'Omen V-Abomination' which narrate the birth and rise to power of Damien's son (not daughter; and both novels are written by 'Gordon McGill' author of the novelization of 'Omen III-The Final Conflict.'
REzuleta
[deleted]
I really don't understand how Delia's parents could have supposedly died in the 1930s when this movie is clearly set in the 1990s.
The people whose names were listed as Delia's parents actually did die in the 1930s. The coven stole their identities, and just used their names for the adoption forms.
I believe Kate Reynolds was most likely supposed to be Delia's mother, but the timeline (if used in literal years) wouldn't have worked. "The Final Conflict" was made in 1982, and "Omen IV" was made in 1991.
She could have been many different women I imagine, as I'm sure Damien was 'popular' with the females.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush." share
[deleted]
he didnt exactly make love to her, if you get my meaning,
in the book isnt it right she bears him from a different er exit???
euwww!!
~Leave the teabag in...I like it strong!!!~
[deleted]
i KNOW that, i was on about the other thing he did and the novel's version of omen IV
~Leave the teabag in...I like it strong!!!~
[deleted]
Although the timelines have always been off I assumed Kate Reynolds was the mother of Delia and Alexander. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Damian have anal sex with Kate in the novel? I assumed that he did this in the movie too because he flips her over on her stomach. He was born of a jackal and like an animal so he preferred to have sex like an animal. And check out the large scratches on her back.
The scary clown doll is hiding under my bed.
Saying that Kate Reynolds couldn't be Delia's mother because of the timeline problem forget that Damien DIED soon after having sex with her. Maybe there could be other women, but they would all be BEFORE Kate.
shareconsidering this takes place a decade after THE FINAL CONFLICTI didn't catch where this film gave the date of its setting--was it in the newspaper articles or something?
http://www.rateyourmusic.com/~JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies share
[deleted]
I personally hate the Idea of it being Kate Reynolds, this movies existence cheapens the end of Finale Conflict enough as it is, having the Heroine of the that film bear this girl into existence after killing Damien is insulting.
Damien I'm sure had many lovers, Delia was probably conceive din America before he went back to England when you think about it.
"It's not about money.... It's about sending a Message..... Everything Burns!!!"
[deleted]
Actually the biggest problem with Continuing the Omen franchise after III is how the Second Coming doesn't seem to have effected the world at all.
My point remains though, Delia is put up for adoption around the DC area, exactly where Damian was at the start of The Final Conflict, this implies to me she was born there, conceived before he left.
If Kate was the mother logically this film should have been set in The Angle Isle.
"It's not about money.... It's about sending a Message..... Everything Burns!!!"
[deleted]
Hey that makes sense that Yvonne could be the mother. You know that thought absolutely never even occurred to me. I assumed Yvonne was just a fallen nun who maybe helped in the birth of Delia and then set her up for adoption. I always assumed Kate Reynolds was the mother. In fact I had seen Omen IV before III and I was expecting a sex scene between Kate and Damien for a continuation of the story.
The scary clown doll is hiding under my bed.