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Why wasn't Dede beyond furious? *spoiler*



**RANT**
Whether he was upset or not, if I walked in on my son having trashed almost ALL my electronic things in my apartment, including a stereo...I would have broken his face! I could see one item, but he trashed the entire place!!!!

Dede was such a lax parent when it came to discipline with Fred. She let him call her names, never mind he calls her Dede and not Mom (WTH?), misbehave in school (playing backwards), he's rude beyond belief in he basically tells her she's stupid, tells the world that she is dead just because he's mad at her, nothing is ever good enough for that kid.
I felt bad that he was lonely, but he was so spoiled and so blah how could he have friends?


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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How do you know that the stuff that was taken apart wasn't already broken? As parents, we know kids go through phases of taking things apart and putting them back together, she even told Jane, "you might want to keep an extra phone around because he likes to take them apart". My son enjoyed taking computers apart so I kept a bunch of old computer parts around. You stating you would "broken his face", well...I certainly hope you don't have any children.

He was "misbehaving" in school because he was bored. This kid was a genius and his teacher failed to realize the potential this kid had. Half the things he talked about, she didn't even understand. He was 7 and genius and bored. It'd be like going to school just to sit around and do nothing for seven hours straight.

I don't think he was rude or spoiled. He was depressed and screaming for some sort of stimulation.

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I'm sorry but being 'bored' is not an excuse for misbehaving. And assuming that the electronic things WERE intact before he broke them, I would indeed be furious.
My mother would have spanked me, and she hardly ever did! I also would be grounded for the near future! Kids get no discipline these days; one should not be excessive but not too lenient either!

Dede tried ti give him academic stimulation, but he ended up with a woman who didn't know what fun was. But even she was very kind to Fred, and he acted like a spoiled brat with her too.


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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I'm sorry but being 'bored' is not an excuse for misbehaving. And assuming that the electronic things WERE intact before he broke them, I would indeed be furious.


He was playing, not breaking things. The last scene it was the only way he seemed to deal with his problems. Dede said in the movie to keep extra phones around. That implies that she keeps extra appliances around. She does scold him for messing with the toaster, but he stated that he was fixing it rather than breaking it.

Maybe you should be infuriated be real parents who do horrible things to their children instead of fictional characters who aren't even real.

My mother would have spanked me, and she hardly ever did! I also would be grounded for the near future! Kids get no discipline these days; one should not be excessive but not too lenient either!


My mom never spanked me or grounded me and I always behaved. Funny how kids who were always spanked seemed to think they "needed it," it's almost as if spanking makes kids into bigger spoiled snots.

This entire thing just comes off as "get off my lawn rant" about how "things were great when I was young!"


Dede tried ti give him academic stimulation, but he ended up with a woman who didn't know what fun was. But even she was very kind to Fred, and he acted like a spoiled brat with her too.


That's because she wasn't a good parent, she did not provide affection which is what every child's need. Discipline isn't everything. Since you're arguing that a kid doesn't show respect for parents who discipline them, you should also see that kid won't respect you if you don't show them affection either.

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[quote]My mom never spanked me or grounded me and I always behaved. Funny how kids who were always spanked seemed to think they "needed it," it's almost as if spanking makes kids into bigger spoiled snots.[quote]This makes no sense whatsoever.

How is someone who was punished as a child, fairly or indeed unfairly, more of a spoiled brat than someone who had an entirely permissive childhood without any boundaries?

I'm not pro-spanking by the way, although I can understand why some frustrated parents feel they have no other choice, and in some instances children who have behaved particularly badly (i.e. hit someone) arguably deserve some type of stringent discipline to demonstrate that if you physically hurt someone there is a fair chance that you'll end up physically hurt yourself when you're an adult.

But my point is that in terms of the parenting spectrum, from overly disciplinarian to overly permissive, neither extreme is advisable, but 'overly permissive' parenting is the one most likely to produce a spoiled brat (conversely, overly disciplinarian parenting will probably turn the child into a basket-case).

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Hitting a child because they hit another child is NOT the way to teach that hitting is wrong and won't turn out well if they did it as adults.

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Just because someone is not spanked or constantly disciplined, doesn't mean they are permissive and have no boundaries!
I don't 'discipline' my kids and they're v well behaved (both teens now.)

As for "I'd break his face"???

I have no words.

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Whether he was upset or not, if I walked in on my son having trashed almost ALL my electronic things in my apartment, including a stereo...I would have broken his face! I could see one item, but he trashed the entire place!!!!


Clearly you need to find some better way of fixating your anger, perhaps chess or boxing??

Dede was such a lax parent when it came to discipline with Fred. She let him call her names, never mind he calls her Dede and not Mom (WTH?), misbehave in school (playing backwards), he's rude beyond belief in he basically tells her she's stupid, tells the world that she is dead just because he's mad at her, nothing is ever good enough for that kid.
I felt bad that he was lonely, but he was so spoiled and so blah how could he have friends?


How do you parent a child that's smarter than you? I thought she did a pretty decent job considering that she had absolutely no support whatsoever from her parents or a husband. The one thing I'd actually criticize is the fact that Fred walks around all by himself in the city, wow really at age 7? Times really have changed, you just don't see that anymore. He almost seemed like a latchkey kid.

His teacher called him mentally retarded, how would you react? His mother didn't seem to respect that teacher either. The playing backwards thing seemed like a ruse to try and hide his genius to the other kids. A little girl calls him a freak when he's walking to the piano. How would you react if you were a 7 year old? Play beautifully and encourage the kids to harass you even further? Most kids who are teased tend to do the same thing and keep a low profile.

Also, he never technically calls her stupid, but his mother sold his piano and he was mad at her. So he wanted her to feel bad like he did. Didn't you ever say immature things out of anger to your mother? I remember being 4 or 5 years old and being scolded by my mother. I carved the word MEAN into the coffee table. That's how children react whether they're geniuses or average.

As for exclaiming that his mother was dead, I personally didn't get that either. I didn't think he was angry at his mother, he was distraught and made an outrageous claim for reasons I can't understand. Children don't do things just because they want to be evil or misbehave. . Children say and do things because they are hurt, lovely, sad (remember Fred exclaims that he's pensive before leaving his mom), angry. I remember being a teenager and my defense mechanism was to not speak at all. My mother always thought I was "angry at her," but what she didn't realize (and never did) was that I was depressed and needed someone to talk to. I never got that, but I've since evolved from the childish attitude of pouting and never saying what's wrong.

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I agree with what you say- but I think he says she was "dead" because he felt abandoned by here- and it was the only way he could understand it in his 7 year old mind.
He probably wanted to punish her in some way, too.

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OP, Dede was not “beyond furious” because she’s a better person than you are. People just do not understand how much support gifted children need. I pray to God you never have one.

I always sneer at your smug, twee attempt at a signature🤮

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