Horrible Music


I just saw Light Sleeper for the first time. The music by Michael Been is awful. The lyrics are worse. Alternately maudlin, pretentious, and horribly obvious, at least as far as relating to what the characters are going through. I can't think of a more glaring case of a score almost ruining a movie since Michael Mann's Thief.

But at least some of the electronic music TD did for Thief worked. On the commentary with Mann and James Caan, right at the beginning, Caan says, "Oh, Michael...Tangerine Dream, what a headache." But every time a song starts in Light Sleeper, I was groaning and saying shut the f uck up! SO obvious, SO wannabe deep, it's atrocious. Thief is a much better movie, but LS is pretty good, but almost submarined by this hack, especially the endurance test of an opening theme. I can't believe the only other thing on this board is about the so-called "hauntingly beatiful song at the end".

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The former comment has a stench of admonishment..(perhaps even latent envy.) The hodge-podge placement of music was created well-past post-production and the over-dubbed 'score' is to say the least, poorly concieved.. Yet, one can't blame the brilliant and truly unique/talent of Micheal Been for what should have otherwise been characterized as "A Pigeonhole'd Score"!
(*To the brave and sane; Michael Been is the bass player, lyricist and driving-force behind the overwhelmingly underated band, THE CALL. And with a catalog of some 18 years, a discography more worthy than an IMDB.COM dissenting rant, I bid: "The word is out, there's no denial, the past weighs heavy, on the reconciled."

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Ah, where to begin?

When I see someone throw out a word like admonishment it seems to be a way to appear intelligent.

Being that a lot of readers and/or users of this site are barely literate, the use of such a word serves 2 functions: (1) to make the user appear intelligent; (2) to confuse and distract or make people who don't know what it means feel stupid or inferior. For those who don't know, it is an unnecessary euphemism(thinly veiled lie) to hide behind. The dictionary defines admonishment as: "to reprove (voice or convey disapproval of), gently but earnestly", and "to counsel (another) against something to be avoided; caution".

THAT WAS MY EXACT INTENT.

Bravo for knowing a four syllable word.

Saying my post has "a stench of admonishment" confuses me. Voicing my disapproval honestly comes with a stench? Your whole post(in itself an admonishment, or rebuke) is as pretentious as Been's music in Light Sleeper. Not everyone wants the inner world of the characters spelled out for them in such an obvious and embarrassing way.

You mention, "The hodge-podge placement of music was created well-past post-production and the over-dubbed 'score' is to say the least, poorly concieved.<sp>(i before e , friend.) Does the fact that it's hodge-podge(Jesus, is this the 1950s?) placement of the music excuse its embarrassing transparent qualities?

Next, we have this gem from you. "Yet, one can't blame the brilliant and truly unique/talent of Micheal Been for what should have otherwise been characterized as "A Pigeonhole'd Score"!
One can't blame Been for what you called "A Pigeonhole'd Score" ? There are so many things wrong with this reference, it's not worth pointing them all out.
I CAN, and DID.
Let me add that brilliant and/or genius, are by far the most overused words in the language.

Last, but definitely not least, I've heard of, but not heard,The Call. After Light Sleeper, I'm in no rush to check them out.

Lastly, having a catalog of 18 years means nothing. There are hundreds of musicians with larger catalogs who are equally worthless. As for said catalog being more worthy than an Imdb rant, no shi t! Anything is more important.

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I must agree ... the lyrics of Michael Been almost destroy 'Light Sleeper' ... if you like Michael Been, fine ... listen to him in privat ... but here he is (like jotaro said) pretentios und horribly obvious!

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Hey Jo,

Will you be so kind as to provide the titles of the songs in the movie. I did a search for a Michael Been, and Yahoo has nothing on him. Is he the actual singer? Also, where can I find the soundtrack? Sorry for so many questions.

I know you did not like the music in Light Sleeper, but I think it's great, whether it's in the the movie or not. I guess the slow, melodic, haunting, sound is not your thing...or maybe you just did not like the music in the movie, but would liste to it on CD.

OK, I appreciate any help you can offer.

Steven

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Steve,

Here you go.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002MPS/ref=m_art_li_1/102-3031666-6774503?v=glance&s=music

Michael Been was the lead singer for The Call. To the best of my knowledge they didn't release a soundtrack for Light Sleeper but here's a link for the tracks you're after. The album is called Love is Everywhere.

http://www.blindrecords.com/the_call.htm

I own Light Sleeper on DVD and find the soundtrack to be one of it's strong points. Haven't listened to much of their stuff so...I don't know. Try their greatest hits maybe.

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Reilly,

Thanks immensely for the helpful info. I was stunned by the soundtrack, and very interested to read about Michael Been and his band: The Call. (Also, I could have sworn that I saw Robbie Robertson's name in the opening credits of Paul Schrader's "Light Sleeper".)

The second time I saw the film, I was mesmerized by the instrumentation in "World On Fire". I noticed also that particular track is available on "To Heaven and Back", but I think it's a different version (more up-tempo) from that on "Love is Everywhere" which I have now ordered thru Blind Records (as it is unavailable on Amazon).

While scanning their music, I got a kick out of hearing "Let the Day Begin" which was certinaly a familiar rocker. I would be curious to know if there are any good reasons (song versions)to get their live album.

Thanks again for the reference!

Dr.Bob

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The music in "Light Sleeper" that bad? No, I liked it to be honest and like Reilly said it was one of the strong points of the movie.

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Hey, cheers for the heads-up on a commentary version. I picked up the zone 1 a couple of years ago and its's a bare-bones-no-extras-full-screen piece of crap.

I've just ordered the zone 2 wide-screen with commentary from amazon UK for myself for christmas.

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Somehow I missed the film the first time around, and saw the end credits ONLY, one night in a hotel room somewhere. I knew I had to see it, and for me it did not disappoint. It is one of a very few films where I was really conscious of the music as a part of the film (interesting in light of the "post-post-production" comment) and for me, it all worked together.

The soundtrack only came out in Europe. The number is 9031-77210-1, someone said it was on Warner Bros. (Been's solo label) I may be disremembering that it was on A&M. The is also one in France on the Red Rooster label. They show up on Ebay occasionally, but go for big $$$ ($40-50) There were 16 tracks, but mostly "World on Fire" and "To Feel This Way". I "fummydiddled" around with burning my own cd from the film itself, but was never quite happy with the results.

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I agree, this film does not age well and the music does not help in the slightest. After watching it again recently on Cable TV I was amazed at how 90ish this film is. The Black leather furniture, post-80s corporate hairdos, and apartment walls that begged for a Patrick Nagle painting to hang on them.



Hi, I'm God. Can I touch You?

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Damn, I wish I'd known about the Region 2 version with commentary. I only recently bought the Region 1 with bugger-all extras. I hate that.

I agree that the movie hasn't aged particularly well. And I don't like the soundtrack as much as I did when I first heard it in my teens. But I still think it suits the mood. And I love one lyric in particular:

"How different would I be today/If only knowledge courted me, instead of fear and shame?"

- Michael Been

I don't understand the question, and I won't respond to it.

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Greetings! I am a huge M Been/Call fan, from way back. The above quote, is slightly diff. from the song "To Feel This Way"...from Been's solo effort "On the Verge of a Nervous Breathrough". I recommend their last true "Call" effort (on a major label), "Under the Red Moon". Also, the man plays keyboards, lead and rhythm guitar, bass and drums, sings and writes original material...ALL EQUALLY WELL. And, just to confuse the mix...he's a born again Christian (not sure about the rest of the band). So, go back and listen to any of the "standard love songs" and consider them as hymns...that's all of "To Heaven and Back". I believe that anyone who can pen a song that can be taken as a lovesong (to a human partner) or as a "love song" to "god", having both interpretation make sense (and be LISTENABLE) has a degree of talent. I've not yet heard the whole of this soundtrack but I know, from past experience, Been and company have not let me down. Trivia-"Let the Day Begin" was the "theme song" for the Al Gore Campaign (possibly Clinton); The Call performed it live during the elections, with Gore and Clinton dancing/singing along. Their best song, lyrically? "America"-from Under the Red Moon" The CAll had U2, P. Gabriel, Springsteen, Bruce Cockburn and others of that ilk, singing their praises throughout the 80's...

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I'm a musician myself, and often feel that music can be the strong or weak point in a movie.
For me, the music was ever-present and blaring, sending me running for my remote to continually turn down the volume. As soon as the next speaking scene came up, I had to turn the volume up to get the gist of the dialog.
Unfortunately, though the lyrics may have been apropos and the sax playing soulful, the music over all was not well-suited to this movie.

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i am a big fan of michael Been and the call, but i don't think the music worked well for this movie...hearing the same voice over and over during a soundtrack is kind of distracting...the music was kind of too obvious...his voice is too striking and kind of took over at times...

anyway, if anyone is looking for a copy of "World on Fire', there is a rock version of it on 'To Heaven and Back' the Call's last album, from 1997.
"To Feel This Way", also featured in the movie is on Michael's album "On the Verge of a Nervous Breakthrough" (2 versions, 1 rock, 1 not)from 1994.

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Wow. I thought the music was a bit much at some points but at others it fit the movie well, IMHO. I loved two parts:

1. The music that came on as he saw his ex had committed suicide and right after.

2. The music that came on as he and Susan S. entered the building at the end, and he shot the men.

Sometimes music should be subtle but someties the opposite works just as well. The music was its own presence here and for me it enriched the film a lot. I do not think it would stick with me at all if not for the music.

And this is not even the sort of music I listen to... but I am openminded about music and to me this was powerful stuff, in this setting. I'm glad it moved some people, and understand the opinions of the rest, though I do not share them.

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This time I'm trying to pretend it's a Greek chorus.

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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This time I treated it as ironic 80s naff.

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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i have been a guitarist, keyboardist, songwriter, and recording studio owner
and have heard incredible amounts of music.

i liked the music to this movie, it was really good.

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Too true.

The "music" chokes the film completely, mickey-mousing on about doors, the subliminal "Oh my God," etc. The movie didn't need this treatment and it just doesn't fit. Dafoe never looks like he expects some dude to be singing as he does his thing. He acts like he expects silence, atmospherics, not a rock opera.

Dafoe and Co. gave a decent enough performance and any soundtrack should have been non-intrusive and only audible when necessary.

No doubt the music was larded on to bring in the young crowd, as the protagonist was 38 (no, 40!); okay, I got it now. Business before pleasure.

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