ATM: Riki-Oh
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I wanted to get to this earlier but didn't. Sorry ak.
This is usually not in my genre of movies. I did like them when I was younger.
I think the last one I saw was Kung Fu Hustle. Which I really liked.
Blood, guts and revenge. I liked this movie.
I didn't know what to expect when this started. It was a great mixture of everything.
I love that this movie knew exactly what it was doing. It had fun with itself.
It took a lot from older movies from the 70's and multiplied that by 1000.
My favorite thing is when cyclops would shake his eye and take mints from it.
Some of the scenes are so ridiculous that they are brilliant.
This is the kind of movie I never would have watched on my own.
Thanks for sharing ak.
I agree 100%. It's also not my cup of tea and it never gained any success at the time of release because it insisted on being all-serious action flick. It then got a cult following in the internet years later, audience now appreciate it for its over-the-top sillyness and its absurdities while nobody take it seriously anymore. This way it become a better movie. Almost as good (in sillyness term) as Schwarznegger's Total Recall.
shareI can't believe they thought this was a _serious_ action movie! Didn't they watch what they'd made?
shareNo, there are a few over the top violence fest Hong Kong serious action movies at the time. Some of them are very successful, like Dragon Inn (1992), rated R for graphic violence and disturbing images.
And there's signature Chow Yun Fat action movies with extreme violence that were very popular, like A Better Tomorrow series and Hard Boiled.
I have to admit, I'm not that familiar with Hong Kong action /or action lol/. Maybe it's because of the effects, but the extreme violence looks "cartoony" here. How do the effects compare to the other films you mentioned? Are they more realistic?
shareThey are not very realistic at all. One movie I remember has some scenes with a swordman stabs another swordman and goes through his body. I didn't mean only the sword than goes through the other guy's body, but the whole swordman himself! Very inventive. Complete with blood splatters everywhere.
However, Riki-Oh was way more gory while other more sucessful movies usually not very gory even though ridiculously violent.
And it looks cartoony maybe because it was based on a Japanese comicbook.
A comic book, this explains a lot.
Maybe comparable with Sin City.
I like watching these type of movies every so often.
There is enough real violence in the real world to satisfy me for the rest of my life.
Is there a sequel to this ?
No, there's no sequel because it was a flop.
However the Japanese cinema has a lot of this kind of movies. There are hundreds flicks in this niche genre and it shows the sad state of Japanese filmmaking industry right now.
Few are action oriented (like Riki-Oh), most are more horror sprinkled with soft-porn, which I don't care cause I dislike horrors.
An example of IMDb list of this genre:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003325105/?start=1&view=detail&sort=release_date_us:desc&defaults=1&scb=0.9314760789319698
I watch a lot of Japanese film.
My favorites are the after the Edo period. Where the samurai wandered about.
At once considered heroes now look upon as vagrants. This time period fascinates me.
I do have an affinity for Japanese Horror. Most of my favorites are from 20 years ago and beyond.
Kobayashi, Shimizu, Shindo and Miike are some of my favorites.
From the list you provided it looks like it has went downhill.
Yeah, Japanese movie industry is pretty much dead today. They are uncreative and dwells exclusively on repetition.
Godzilla has literally gazillion sequels which are exactly the same movie over and over again repeated ad infinitum. This is the state of Japanese films today.
Once a pioneer in world cinema now reduced into anime and otaku-only sub-culture.
That swordman bit sound great! I've been missing out not watching these action movies.
But now it makes sense why they'd think they were making a serious film. And the manga /right?/ part explains the rest.
Exactly. I think Riki-Oh just trying to crank all the violence up to 11 and overdose more gore to be the best of them all. It backfired tho'.
It's like because people seemed to love The Avenger's city wide destruction final battle scene, Man of Steel tried to multiply it by 1000x. Also happened with The Matrix sequels. The action scenes were so extremely over the top they became ridiculous.
Worked wonders for Riki-Oh 15 years later, but I don't think time will be that forgiving to the Matrix sequels lol.
Riki-Oh has a charm about it. The Matrix sequels don't.
Removed from it's original context, the film _is_ enjoyable for it's ridiculousness. But I wonder, how much of it's delayed success is from viewers familiar with the genre and all that surounds the film, and how much is it from clueless viewers /Hello/ who don't know about that original context (I hope this makes sense).
With all the others you mentioned /and this one as well, maybe/ there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding as to why these big scenes worked so well. It is because there is all this other stuff going on, so they do feel epic. When everything is epic, nothing is...
This surprises me too. Hard to believe this was to be considered serious.
It's so over the top. In a way it did remind me of the Grindhouse movies.
The way it was filmed. Some of the camera shots.
The action and the absurd characters are excellent.
OK, so I took a quick peak here before I watched the movie. I was expecting an actual Cyclops. I was disappointed.
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