this movie is exactly like kickboxer starring van damme. His brother gets injured in KOTK gets killed, train in jungle with outcast. girls get kidnapped in both, its still a good movie but kickboxer is way better and im shocked no1 has posted a topic about this
shareAlthough the overall theme is similar, there are many other movies out there that have the same basic “must train to get vengeance premise.”
I have watched both movies and even though Kickboxer obviously has a better overall "polish" to it (I suspect thanks to things like finance), when compared to King of the Kickboxers it just doesn't cut it.
Kickboxer is a movie that features pretty boys dancing around the place (I sight the movie as evidence itself) while King of the Kickboxers has all the elements that make it an instant cult-classic....
0. A semi-corny script *** very important ***
1. Bad voice dubbing
2. Bad sound dubbing
3. A really over top super villain
4. A trade mark finishing movie.
5. A blond haired blue-eyed woman treated like a prize but saved by the hero
6. A really cool training montage
7. A really ... and I mean really pumping soundtrack.
8. Did I mention the really pumping soundtrack?
9. An epic and fantasical final battle sequence.
10. A really funny master trainer, who was a "drunk", "comic relief" and kick arse fighter in his own right, and still looking fit as well.
Sure Kickboxer, has a lot of these elements as well but ... in the end is too clean shaven for it to be a gritty fight movie.
Kickboxer is style; King of the Kickboxers is substance...
Never use style, when you can beat something with substance alone.
Bizzarojerry
very well analysed. i agree 100% wholeheartedly.
"how about... a royal flush!" *loren avedon kicks a cauldron of boiling water into the bad guys*
WOW! That was amazing, I cant diagree with anything you just wrote up there and I don;t see any come backs from the original poster as well!
Thanks for that analysis, two thumbs up!
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Absolute and totally 100% agreed with muvaphuka!!! Great observations!!
Prostitute: What the *beep* are you doing?
Johnny: I'm gonna kill a bunch of people.
and the soundtrack is really pumpin'. Let's not forget!
you were born a pig farmer.
you'll always BE a pig farmer.
And now, you will DIE a pig farmer.
Are you kidding me? This is supposed to be sarcastic right? The training scenes are pathetic, the dialogue is brainless and the acting (especially the lead) is so over the top it is almost unbearable (even for a poorly directed B movie). I am talking Van dame is better, than this obnoxious fool! Or was he doing a parody, like Weird Al but with movies? It is more the filmmakers fault than his. When they are not disgracing Thai culture, they are disgracing themselves with this poorly written story-line. When I was first watching this I said to myself "this is no Kickboxer" and I stay by that. Where is this substance for which you speak? If Kickboxer was a B movie (in production values) King of the Kickboxers is a C movie. When stand it on its own, it is watchable in the right frame of mind, but it is no Kickboxer.
shareMartial Arts films are'nt watched for acting or story!! The acting is bad in all martial arets films, it just varys in levels of badness!, same goes for story!
Martial Arts films are watched for fight scenes!!!!
And the end fight scene in King of the Kickboxers is a true masterpiece of this genre!!!!
Whereas the end fight scene in Kickboxer is DULL!!! it's more realistic than the end fight scene in King of the Kickboxers, But so Dull!!!
For fight scenes, and that's what films in this genre should be judged on, King of the Kickboxers Rules!!!
KOTK has better fight choreography hands down.
shareI haven't seen this movie since I was a kid. I can't wait to see it again, but I have to add this little anecdote...
I was 12 when his came out, and at that time all things inane action/karate movies were the Citizen Kane of filmmaking to me back then. I thought Van Damme et al was high art. I liked NRNS, but I LOVED NRNS 2 - it was one of my favorites.
I never watched King of the Kickboxers as much - because it scared me. Not because of violence or anything like that, but it was just TOO crazy. There was always something about it I just couldn't wrap my head around. In a way it was my favorite of them all because it was so over the top, but yet I couldn't watch it as much because of that same reason.
I haven't thought about this movie in years. I just watched "JCVD" - which was awesome - and I got reminiscent.
This will be the next movie I watch. I know it will inevitably lose some of the awe it inspired in me as a youth, but wow did this movie have a strange affect on me.
No matter how much I watched NRNS 2, it was this movie that made Loren Avedon a name that has been present in my thoughts for my whole adult life.
Both films have a very similar feel and it's obvious that Kickboxer was the inspiration for KOTK but they are different enough to be ok.
Kickboxer is undoubtedly the better film but the choreography in KOTK is far, far superior and let's be honest the revenge for the murdered/injured brother plot is in a million other films of this type.
Both are excellent examples of the genre and have the late 80s early 90s magic about them so I'm perfectly happy to have both in my collection.