King of England?


Does it annoy others as much as it annoys me, how King Ralph is addressed as the King of England! He's the King of Great Britain. England, Ireland, Wales and Scotland!

In real life people call Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen of England.
While this is true, she's not exclusivly their Queen. She is the BRITISH Queen.

STEVEN G BEATTIE

Paisley, Scotland.

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She's not exclusivly the queen of the United Kingdom she also the queen of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.

God it's annoying...

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What's annoying?
People calling her the Queen of England or NOT calling her the Queen of all the countries you mentioned?

STEVEN G BEATTIE

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NOT calling her the Queen of all the countries i mentioned.

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Yes it is annoying, but that's Americans for you!

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yes, you should that USA habitants... I'm from America too, I was born and raised in Argentina which is part of America.. which is a Continent not a Country

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Th late comedian Jimmy Edwards played polo with Prince Phillip, who he referred to as "IM
what's married to ER".

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Actually she's the Queen of these other countries because she is the Queen of Great Britain. It bugs me about how they refer to both HM The Queen and King Ralph as the King of England. What if they referred to them as the Queen or King of Wales, or King of Scotland, or King of Northern Ireland? While in fact this is all true, the technical name is HM Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You get the drift!

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Because England is the main part of the UK? Most population, largest economy, etc.

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... well it´s even worse that they mention af King of Finland in this movie.

Finland does not have a king.

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Perhaps they had in mind scenes from the musical My Fair Lady, and wanted to 'do that'.

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So George Bush is the President of Texas. I get it now. It all makes sense :)

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I am just watching it now, and, at least the first time Ralph arrives and is introduced to O'Toole (Secretary) he is not identified as King of England. I can't remember the entire title, but it did not include King of England, and was considerably longer than just "King of England" Later in the movie, I did hear Peter O'Toole refer to him briefly as "King of England." 'Course, that's just an American's take on it. Why doesn't some Great Britian movie company remake it and use all those correct titles in every scene? I would watch it.
my god its full of stars

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its just starting on itv 1 in the uk

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yep watching it now as i write :)

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It's because despite their extreme intelligence in other areas, yanks are quite thick when it comes to international geography, especially relating to the UK. Ask your average american what the difference is between England, Britain and UK and most of the time they'll have no idea.

King Ralph was written by americans for americans, with token americanised British accents, the sort that none of us speak with. The film has expressions they use themselves and think everyone else does too - for example they refer to the PM as 'Prime Minister Hale' in the way they say 'President Bush', they don't realise we rarely (if ever) use that title that way.


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Not anti-american - just Pro-Britain.

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This movie was so cringeworthy! We have some big oafish lounge-singer guy step into the shoes of the King of [fill in your own list of numerous countries and protectorates, for accuracy's sake], botches everything up while chasing after some tart, yet he somehow manages to melt everybody's heart because, hey, he can play honky-tonk piano jazz anytime, anywhere - even at a major state function filled with dignitaries from other countries, oh, and he lands England a car-making deal with some African nation nobody has ever heard of much less cares about. Then he quits and hands the royal scepter over to some wanker who has the spine of a garden slug. And they all lived happily ever after.

This is the kind of positive, life-affirming filmmaking that we need lots more of.



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No King of England has existed since the Act of Union in 1707.

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I think Eric has just about summed it up...

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I think Eric has just about summed it up...


I suggest you come up with your own opinion instead of conforming to other peoples opinions.

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I suggest you should only bother posting if you have something interesting to say instead of following me around spounting crap. Thank you!

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I concur

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I'm sure you must have detected the last line of my comment was drenched in sarcasm, no? lol

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So your complaint is that a movie about an American lounge singer from Vegas getting appointed the British King, doesn't use the proper terminology. If thats all you have to complain about I think you're doing all right.

And whining that Americans don't know British geography or history always kills me. Do the British study American history or geography? I doubt it.

It's a fun little movie that even mentions most of the parts of the British Empire. If calling him the King of Englang or Elisabeth as the Queen offends you, we will just have to be more careful.

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I just watched this today, first time in ages. In Parliament, he is called and refers to Cedric as...

By the grace of God, King of The United Kingdom of Great Britan & Northern Ireland and of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. So, I'm not sure what the problem is :)

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As a very proud Englishman i wasn't the least bit offended when i saw this film on TV today for the first time in 16 years,our 2 histories will always be entwined,i just pity the poor American cousin that decides to visit the original Washington in Tyne and Wear,or Boston ,Lincolnshire mind you my home city of York was so good they named it twice. lol

"I'm as mad as hell and i'm not gonna take this anymore" !!

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Well, I'm not a Yank nor a Brit, so I'll just put in my two cents with the hope that I don't offend anyone.

If I recall correctly, whenever the King is formally announced (in the film), he is intoduced as "By the grace of God, King of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith".

And Ralph Jones (John Goodman) also uses the same words when turning over the throne to Cedric.

I think this answers some of the questions on "King of England" and someone also mentioned other countries like Canada. But, yes, in some parts of the film Cedric (Peter O'Toole) and Duncan also mention "King of England" but I doubt they would use the entire phrase everytime (even in private).

Someone here said that Brits use the term "Prime Minister" as opposed to Prime Minister Hale, or Mr. Prime Minister. If I am remembering correctly, then all the British characters refer to Hale, simply as "Prime Minister" the only one who says Prime Minister Hale is Ralph (John Goodman) when he addresses the Parliament.

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Nope

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to answer the OP's question, this is a movie made for AMERICAN audiences, and therefore caters to their ignorance. The average American doesn't know the difference between England and Britain.

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Properly, he would be the King of England and her territorehs, including those delightful colonehs when they cease the'ah tempah tantrum.

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