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What are they saying in Spanish during the bathtub scene?


Clearly they are speaking about the potential explosion, but anyone understand exactly what is being said?

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Spanish?! They are in Italy and speaking Italian I thought. My Region 1 DVD has only English subtitles (no subtitles in English of the Italian/Spanish(?) being spoken) and the commentary is of no help with what the servants/staff are exactly saying. Hopefully someone will be able to come along and post a translation for us.

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Geez...

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I only flinched in my answer because of the remote chance that the entire staff in that Italian villa were Spaniards! I haven't seen the film in a while....but I agree, Geez!

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It was in Italian, and they were warning him to leave the valve open (where the water was trickling out), otherwise the pressure would build up and the boiler would explode. Which it did.










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Probably a forced attempt to insert some humour in the film. I don't think it needed it. It wasn't funny.

The spaghetti eating scene and lizard scene were also odd. Maybe the latter had a sexual implication. Well, she does have her eyes closed and is dreaming of something passionate

"The royal penis is clean."

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I agree with you on the spaghetti-eating scene -- made me nauseated just watching it.

The exploding boiler scene showed Mellersh for the pompous ass he was. Don't know that it was necessary, but it was kind of funny.

I thought the lizard scene just showed how completely Rose had let go of her stress -- she may or may not have known the lizard was there, but it didn't matter. And her calm made the lizard comfortable where it was.









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"Probably a forced attempt to insert some humour in the film. I don't think it needed it. It wasn't funny."
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Rupert_Pupkin1, The boiler scene wasn't an "attempt to insert some humour" because the movie is full of humour. It just doesn't happen to be humour of a very obvious sort. It isn't humour of the same type as your tag: "The Royal penis is clean, Sir!" It is humour of a much more subtle sort.

mrshvd3's comments are much more perceptive.

As for the spaghetti, it was about coming to terms with the unfamiliar. Those English women had never encountered spaghetti before, and finding a way to eat it stretched all there concepts of English etiquette to the utmost. It was one of the challenges that they had to face, because pasta was going to be on the menu, every day, for a whole month.






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Full of humour? Where was there subtle humour?

I thought it was a dry film without humour and that scene was a noticeable departure into farce. It was similar to a scene you would find in a real Italian comedy and it had no benefit to this film. The aftermath of the explosion with the man covered in dust is pure cliche and wasn't funny or ironic either. The chap's ineptitude wasn't already obvious. He's no Basil Fawlty!

Why would anyone eat spaghetti with a fork designed for a sweet dessert? It doesn't make sense and there are no locals in the scene for contrast.

I liked the film but those silly moments stood out unnecessarily.

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Rupert Pupkin1, I don't think there is any point in my attempting to explain the humour, if you don't get it. All I can do is assure you that the movie is indeed humorous, and that the explosion scene is not out of place, because it is balanced by other humorous scenes.








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I agree with you, Mandyjam. I'm afraid the "subtle" and the "humor"...and there are plenty of both...are lost on him. But at least you tried.






If the opposite of "pro" is "con", then I know why the opposite of PROgress is...

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One might attempt to eat an unfamiliar food with the wrong fork if one doesn't know any better.




If the opposite of "pro" is "con", then I know why the opposite of PROgress is...

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I hadn't noticed that they were using the wrong fork. I would presume that they would be using the cutlery in the order that it was set on the table, as per British etiquette. If the cutlery was not set accordingly, then this would have increased their problem in working out what to do with the unfamiliar food.

So, how many contributors here DO know how to eat spaghetti in the Italian manner, I wonder?

It is easy to laugh at these women, with their constricting backgrounds, making fools of themselves.
However, the majority of British would feel that Americans, even upper-crust Americans, have no idea of how to use a knife and fork, and wonder why they cut up a whole lot of stuff, as if they were in the kitchen, and then lean their knife on the table ("How rude!") and swap hands to eat it, instead of cutting and eating simultaneously, conveying the food to the mouth with the left hand, so that the left hand is in full service during the meal. After all, thinks the Brit, Americans can learn to play not only the guitar but also the piano, and some of them do it quite extraordinarily well, so they ought to be able to coordinate two hands to feed themselves! And why do they hold knives like pens, instead of like knives, requiring all the pressure on the blade to come from the index finger, rather than the hand?






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I wasn't sure on whether the fork used was correct, but thought along the lines of "When in Rome [or San Salvatore], do as the Romans do".

A bit off topic for a moment (but still on the fork)....During WW2, when German spies tried to pass themselves off as British, they were sometimes tripped up by their eating habits of not keeping their fork in the left hand and knife in the right hand and cutting as they went along, as the British do. So, there you go. Guess it's not just us.








The opposite of "pro" being "con" would explain why the opposite of PROgress is...

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That's interesting!


I can't remember how the old lady managed the pasta. Having been in Italy before, she may have acquired the skills. Did you notice?





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I just watched this delightful film again -- I just adore Polly Walker (she was OUTstanding in "Rome"), and I took note of the fact that there was no spaghetti on Mrs. Fisher's plate. There was only a 'flat' item that she was cutting with her knife and fork. Possibly it was the flatbread she had Lotty pass to her.

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The movie was full of subtle, sweet humor that greatly helped characterization and also served an expository purpose. Remember when Mr. Briggs gave Rose tickets to the opera instead of a receipt? Or when Lottie asks Mrs. Fisher if she knew Keats (b. 1795 -- d. 1821)? He died nearly 100 years BEFORE the movie is set! And Mrs. Fisher's answer, "No! And I didn't now Chaucer or Shakespeare, either!" I love Rose's response to Caroline Dester's complaint, "I am so tired of being the center of everything all the time. You know what that's like." And Rose says, "No, I don't." Quiet, subtle, funny. G-d, even the way Caroline knows how to stand to have a servant remove her coat -- the looks on Rose and Lottie's faces are priceless! The whole interaction when a desperate/enthusiastic Lottie won't let Rose leave -- insists on talking to her -- oh, there is so much subtle humor in the movie! I just wonder that you could have missed it.

And the reason the women are so awkward when they eat pasta is because they have NEVER even SEEN pasta before. They are guessing. They really don't know what to do. It makes perfect sense. The correct way to eat pasta may be obvious to YOU, but how would they know anything about it? And why on earth would there need to be locals for contrast? The locals would demonstrate how to eat pasta and then the women would watch them and just copy. Having locals there eating pasta would also make no sense. We need to see how the women handle the challenge of maintaining their British manners while eating this"alien" food. The whole point is to show how cloistered their lives have been and now we are seeing them take their first baby steps into this new world. And, like babies, they make a mess when they eat.

And Molina did a fine job in the explosion scene. You call him a "chap" and compare him to John Cleese. Why? I think you don't know who Alfred Molina is. He and Cleese are peers (I am using that term in the American sense, not the British). Both are award-winning actors with international careers. And Molina has been nominated for three Tony Awards -- I don't think Cleese has ever been nominated for a Tony, but I could be wrong. Still, it's ridiculous to dismiss Molina the way you do. The world sure hasn't.

Of course, you missed all the subtle humor, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that you couldn't understand how good Molina really was.

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Agreed! This is such a sweet movie, and I loved the subtle humor, and the pace of the film as well.

Another great moment was when Lottie was babbling on to Mrs. Fisher, and Rose was shaking her head and making dismayed faces the whole time! Miranda Richardson has such an expressive face!

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The movie was full of subtle, sweet humor that greatly helped characterization and also served an expository purpose. Remember when Mr. Briggs gave Rose tickets to the opera instead of a receipt? Or when Lottie asks Mrs. Fisher if she knew Keats (b. 1795 -- d. 1821)? He died nearly 100 years BEFORE the movie is set! And Mrs. Fisher's answer, "No! And I didn't now Chaucer or Shakespeare, either!" I love Rose's response to Caroline Dester's complaint, "I am so tired of being the center of everything all the time. You know what that's like." And Rose says, "No, I don't." Quiet, subtle, funny. G-d, even the way Caroline knows how to stand to have a servant remove her coat -- the looks on Rose and Lottie's faces are priceless! The whole interaction when a desperate/enthusiastic Lottie won't let Rose leave -- insists on talking to her -- oh, there is so much subtle humor in the movie! I just wonder that you could have missed it.

And the reason the women use a dessert fork when they eat pasta is because they have NEVER even SEEN pasta before. They are guessing. They really don't know what to do. It makes perfect sense. The correct way to eat pasta may be obvious to YOU, but how would they know anything about it? And why on earth would there need to be locals for contrast? The locals would demonstrate how to eat pasta and then the women would watch them and just copy. Having locals there eating pasta would also make no sense. We need to see how the women handle the challenge of maintaining their British manners while eating this"alien" food. The whole point is to show how cloistered their lives have been and now we are seeing them take their first baby steps into this new world. And, like babies, they make a mess when they eat.

And Molina did a fine job in the explosion scene. You call him a "chap" and compare him to John Cleese. Why? I think you don't know who Alfred Molina is. He and Cleese are peers (I am using that term in the American sense, not the British). Both are award-winning actors with international careers. And Molina has been nominated for three Tony Awards -- I don't think Cleese has ever been nominated for a Tony, but I could be wrong. Still, it's ridiculous to dismiss Molina the way you do. The world sure hasn't.

Of course, you missed all the subtle humor, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that you couldn't understand how good Molina really was. The whole movie was magnificent, moving, and so beautiful.

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I love your interpretation of the spaghetti scene. Spot on and totally accurate, I think. As for Rupert_Pupkin1, I don't think he he gets it. Any of it. This wonderful, beautiful movie just sailed right over his head.

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It is Italian. They keep saying to him "e' pericoloso" which means "It's dangerous," and also ask him "do you understand?" They also tell him that he needs to make sure NOT to shut off the water completely because the pressure will make the boiler tank explode. You see, shortly after, Mellersh shuts off the water completely with his toe. The rest is history. Later Mellersh says to Lottie: "I never knew 'pericoloso' meant 'explosive'." It does not.

Something else being said, by the older gentlemen, as Mellersh is sending them all out of the bathroom giving them money: "What's this? I tell him it's dangerous to shut the water off and he gives us money?"

In addition, when Lady Carolie is trying to be left alone and is in the chair with the parasol, the oldest of the Italian gentleman approaches her saying, "Signorina, il sole le fara venire mal di testa" Meaning: "Miss, the sun will bring you a headache." As he is settling the gravel on the path, Lady Caroline said, "Domenico, vado a dormire, per favore" Meaning: "Domenico, I want to go to sleep now, please." He replies: "Brava...dormire e' como una rosa: o se dorme or se riposa." Meaning (a bit hard to translate literally): "Good for you. To sleep is like a rose, it sleeps or it reposes."

Also, the two women wanting the money for the bills, anxiously approach Mrs. Fisher saying, "Soldi! Soldi! Voi devi pagare il soldi dell'alytra settimana..." Meaning: "Money! Money! You need to pay the bills from last week."

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