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Why does Robert Wagner hate Cleveland?


I saw Delirious the other day and thought it was really funny. But I couldn't figure out why Wagner was so upset about having to fly to Cleveland. Is this an inside joke or am I missing something (like the humor here)?

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The filmmakers obviously are using Cleveland the same way the writers of "The Kentucky Fried Movie" used Detroit, as a sort of urban netherworld or Purgatory where the damned must wander looking for a decent party while trying to avoid being mugged for eternity.

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I think the old "mistake on the lake" has been the target of a few too many punch lines over the years. Cleveland rocks!

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I'm pretty sure another dig is taken at Cleveland in Candy's Who's Harry Crumb? Another great John Candy film! :)

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Hey, even the all-time greatest turkey, "Howard the Duck" knocked Cleveland:


Beverly: You got some place to go?
Howard T. Duck: Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't
be in 'Cleve-Land'.
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as a non-American I noticed it too that Cleveland is often the butt of jokes, not only in the two Candy films mentioned, but I've seen it in several movies.
Always wondered why, and if it's really that bad.

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From Beverly Hills Cop:

Axl Foley: I have done security inspections all over the country and with the exception of Cleveland, this place has the worst security in the country!

I always loved that random knock at Cleveland.

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by RamblerReb (Wed Apr 5 2006 06:41:47)
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The filmmakers obviously are using Cleveland the same way the writers of "The Kentucky Fried Movie" used Detroit, as a sort of urban netherworld or Purgatory where the damned must wander looking for a decent party while trying to avoid being mugged for eternity.

Authority is the aqua regia of golden character.

It's actually an old baseball joke. During the time the film was made the Cleveland Indians had never been to the World Series. They had been without a championship since the team was established way back when. The joke was that Cleveland's baseball team was a joke, and therefore Cleveland itself became a joke.

The joke took on new life with a lot of people having no idea of its origin. Therefore Cleveland just became the city that everyone dismissed.

Wagner's line plays on that.

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It's actually an old baseball joke. During the time the film was made the Cleveland Indians had never been to the World Series. They had been without a championship since the team was established way back when. The joke was that Cleveland's baseball team was a joke, and therefore Cleveland itself became a joke.

Well, acutally the Indians last won the world series in 1948, so yes they had been to the world series before.

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The Indians have not only been to the World Series, but they've won it also, the most recent being 1948. But you are mostly right, the city has gone a long time without a championship or even appearing in one. At the time this movie was made, the Indians hadn't been to the World Series since 1954. Of course, they went in 95 and 97, but that was after this movie came out. The Browns have never been to a Super Bowl and haven't won a NFL Championship since 1964, 2 years before the Super Bowl began. And the Cavs have never won an NBA Title, only making it to the Finals in 2007.


I actually went to Cleveland 2 summers ago, in 2009. Went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and to an Indians game at Progressive Field. And I actually really liked the city, the area near the Rock n Roll HOF is very beautiful and the HOF itself is pretty fun, I'd recommend going there.


The old joke was that Cleveland back before the early 90s was kind of thought of how Detroit is thought of today....an old city, run down, with lousy housing and good employment hard to find. You saw alot of the jokes about Cleveland in tv and the movies, especially in 80s movies and tv shows. In the early 90s though, Cleveland really started to rebuild itself and become more of a proud place. Like I said, I've only been that one time and I thought it was a beautiful city, I hope to go there again sometime, maybe for a Browns game or another Indians game.


And just my 2 cents opinion....but I think the city will be better off longterm without Lebron.















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I think it just sounds funny. Phrases like "I hate Miami" or "I hate Los Angeles" just don't roll off the tongue quite like "I hate Cleveland". There might be some other "inside joke" that I'm not aware of.

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No, Cleveland just took it on the chin for a few years. Nothing particularly wrong with the place, just had its share of ragging.

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The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is supposed to be in Cleveland. I'm sure that this is a very sore point to any Californian. Most of these Cleveland digs were probably mocking Cleveland's bidding to be the Home of the RRHF. A kinda 'you've got to be kidding me'.

Or, what better Chamber of Commerce, ad campaign. Don't you want to go to Cleveland to see why it's so bad.

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Best line in the movie, Paraphrased:

"I thought I sent you to Cleveland!"
"And for that alone I should kill you..."


Do not question Uncle!

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Yeah! That really is one of the best lines in movie!
Love that whole exchange between the Jacks.

Think Cleveland gets knocked cos it's a secondary Major city.
Even some states have a some running gags too.
Like Wayne's World:
"Or, imagine, being able to be magically whisked away to... Delaware"
"Hi, I'm in Delaware".

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I never thought of that! Yes, because Cleveland isn't the first city you think of...you usually think of Chicago or New York first, when considering that northern part of the US, simply because those cities are larger and have more prestige for some reason.

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I'll never get NY or why it's considered the "greatest city in the world". It's dirty, over crowded, traffic is horrendous, MOST of the city flat out smells, there's nothing you can do there that you can't do everywhere else....

I mean, the only reason why NY is so big is because when America was flooded with immigrants, that's where they got off the boat. Obviously most of them stayed right there. Boggles my mind.

And as bad as Cleveland get's it...no city is more dumped on than my hometown of Philadelphia. Maxim magazine once refered to this wonderful place as a piss-stop between NY and DC. When you're driving up I-95 from Virginia....past Richmond....you come to a street sign that says.. Washington D.C. 92m New York 240m. It completely disregards that Philadelphia is between them.(Not to mention Baltimore but probably because it is so close to DC).

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New Jersey seems to take it on the chin a lot too. When the Elliot Spitzer scandal broke, David Letterman said that was the kind of shenanigans you expect from the governor of New Jersy, NOT New York.

And there was the old SNL bit where they parodied the old Navy commercials where they show sailors in various exotic locales, only the SNL bit was filmed in Bayonne, New Jersey (I mean, there's lots of less than exotic locales throughout the United States they could have used to demonstrate where you're more likely to get sent if you join the Navy...or at least, where you were more like get sent BEFORE this whole mess in Iraq started).

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It must be the rule of comedy "K's"
Because I enjoyed my visit to Cleveland.


K sounds are funny...


(K)Cucamonga CA
(K)Kawkawlin MI
(K)Kalamazoo MI

Cleveland...Funny!




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cleveland sucks.... haven't you heard the drew carey song?

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