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The bully got to move forward


He wasn't afraid.

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He wasn't afraid of Daniel but that didn't mean he had no fear. A lot of times a bully behaves that way BECAUSE of their own fears (an overbearing or abusive parent for example) and find somebody they can easily take it out on.

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I think we like to tell ourselves that bullies are really cowards, a way of getting an imaginary revenge on them. But I knew a bully in high school who wasn't afraid to take on guys who were bigger than he was, and I never saw him lose a fight. He was popular with the girls and he was a gang leader besides. So, I don't know about the bully in the movie, but the bully I'm talking about certainly would have gotten to move forward.

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Well it's psychiatry that tells us this and not just bullied people trying to get imaginary revenge. Obviously it won't apply to everybody but it probably does apply to quite a few. I personally didn't know any bullies growing up so I don't have any first-hand anecdotes to share. But you're assuming that just because this kid wasn't afraid to fight somebody larger than him that he had no fears at all. His popularity or ability to win a fight really have nothing to do with it, and starting fist fights isn't the measure of courage. As the old saying goes, there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. And he still could have been afraid of many things, a black eye apparently wasn't one of them though. But going back to the movie let's say Daniel stood up to the bully and fought him, I don't think that would have given him a free pass to move on though it could have helped his case.

Here's a good example, Mike Tyson is one of the best boxers of all time. Tough as nails, beat up guys much larger than him, etc. But he has admitted that times in his career and when doing live appearances he would sometimes get stage fright. Many professional athletes do, but they usually call it "performance anxiety". I guess it sounds better than something with the word "fright" in it.

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The bully got to move forward... how do you know this? Apparently I missed something there.

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Obviously, the movie was not about to show the bully moving forward. A better sense of what I am getting at may be found in my review: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101698/reviews-105

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Have read your review. Yeah, I don't see this as a new-age worldview of any kind. It's an absurdist comedy. And we simply do seem to live in a world where the fearless and evil bullies are rewarded, unfortunately.

Everyone's sucked in by the true love experience that redeems him at the end of the movie, but why dead people are supposed to be better at falling in love at first sight than living humans are is to me, rather funny. I can't help but question that, and pondering it leads to a rather dark conclusion.

I'd like to see a sequel turn all of our interpretations upside down.

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Now that you mention it, I don’t think there has ever been a movie that depicted some kind of afterlife for which there was a sequel. I guess that is because an afterlife would itself be the ultimate sequel.

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Interesting that it hasn't been done. A movie about how screwed up heaven is could be interesting. It certainly turns up in quite a number of jokes.

Also, this one is a natural for a sequel, because they are clearly going somewhere... possibly both bath to earth for that matter. A movie about love... a darkly satirical one, no doubt.

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Doubt it...at least from what we saw. Remember, modern psychology indicates bullying is a mask to cover insecurities (fear) about themselves. It may be hidden in some ways better than others, but one cannot hide from oneself. Funny thing..but it reminds me of the movie "Dragon" about Bruce Lee. They said it didn't matter how many opponents he defeated... if he never defeated his personal demons. A bully may be able to prey on what they perceive as the weak, but they cower to face the underlying fears.

Out of curiosity, I've looked up what happened to a few trouble-makers I knew growing up. With few exceptions, they were either locked up, living in hovels, or dead. A couple wised up and become decent human beings but the rest were beaten by their fear. And the pathetic excuses for their lives is their reward for their cowardice. So to the contention as to how a person whose life is so consume by fear could move on is indeed unlikely.








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I have always wondered if some of the bullies I knew when I was young ended up in prison or dead, as apparently was the case with those you knew. But that does not mean they were fearful deep down inside. It might only mean, as I suspect, that they were rash, which is to say, they were insufficiently fearful. In other words, when they should have been afraid and backed down, the way you and I would, they charged right in without a moment’s hesitation.

Another way of looking at it is that we evolved from violent primates. Alpha males, who “bully” other males successfully, get first access to the females. When one gorilla dominates all the other male gorillas in his troop by being willing to fight to the death any male that challenges him, I don’t think his belligerence is a mask to cover his insecurities.

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