I don't think Jack ever loved her, though he may have wanted her to love him. The title seuquence, in which Adrianne is seen in red among an ocean of black umbrellas suggests that she is the "mark" for Jack's latest matrimonial scam. Anyway, a wife knows best about a husband's love, well, usually, and if she believed that he would really hurt Mary at the end of the movie, then it seems unlikely he ever loved either of them. (At least more than his own mother)
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I think his real name was Frank havent seen it for ages but Daniel Shermann is another guy he stole the identity of. Remember his name being Frank because Adrian went to speak to that woman who said one night they stayed up talking all night just like Adrian did when she first met him.
shareHis real name was Frank Sullivan. Remember the picture in the yearbook?
shareYes, and Adrian went to visit the mom whose last name was Sullivan as well. Later on, he killed his own mother. Lets you know right there the extent of his "love" for the women in his life.
shareHis real name was Frank Sullivan. Remember the picture in the yearbook?absolutely correct share
I don't think Frank/Jack even knew what love was. His own mother was an unloving cruel harridan, and while it doesn't justify murder....I guess one could understand why someone like him would want to kill a mother like that. She was horrible. And he was insane.
I think he cared for Adrian and maybe even Mary in a very twisted way, and I think that this surprised even him. But he didn't love them.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
I agree with you, Fiatlux-1. But if he didn't love them at all, why would he sneak in the house in the middle of the night just to see that Mary was alright and to hug and kiss Adrienne?
Also, what was his motive for killing his own mother?
I think it goes back to the theory that Frank found himself caring more than even he realized. He is used to using people, especially women, and then leaving them.
But I think Adrian and even Mary touched him emotionally, and found a single drop of humanity.
He likely even missed them a little. But his psyche was too twisted, and that made the whole thing rather sad. He had it all.
I think he wanted both revenge on his mother (for not loving him, and she was almost as twisted as he) and also because she now knew he was alive when the world thought he was dead. It was a liability.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
I wonder too if he ever loved Adrian. I think he set out to pretend to love her, and ended up caring about her a bit. I definitely think he loved Mary, he is narcissistic and she is a part of him. :) So I think there was that pride, and some love there. I don't think he cared about Kathy, the "Daniel Sherman" wife. I think he was just using her, the same way he started out using Adrian. I also think he was Adam Lucas, and set that whole fake blind date thing up to watch Adrian at the table, and to test her reaction. If she had been feisty and handled being stood up by storming out of the restaurant, he would have read her as a strong woman who can't be controlled. She patiently sat there waiting and hoping. I think he saw her as an open target.
I agree that he killed the mother because she was a liability. He was trying to cover his tracks, because he saw Adrian was quickly catching onto him.
“Soulmate: A belief that someone, somewhere, is holding the key to your heart.”
My thoughts, he never loved anyone but himself. He was a very selfish person and was raised by a selfish person. He wanted to get ahead in life and used everyone he ever knew in life to get what HE wanted.
Watching some of if today, and you have answered many questions, thanks.
Your second life is never like your first. Sometimes it's even better
I also think he was Adam Lucas, and set that whole fake blind date thing up to watch Adrian at the table, and to test her reaction. If she had been feisty and handled being stood up by storming out of the restaurant, he would have read her as a strong woman who can't be controlled. She patiently sat there waiting and hoping. I think he saw her as an open target.Yeah, I definitely think he was Adam Lucas for the blind date, but I think he did it as a way to catch her attention.
I think he narrowed down women he wanted to be around and then selected her as his prey. He knew of her family income, taste and was certain that Adam Lucas would never turn up. A wealthy solemn and well dressed woman was waiting to be swept of her feet; she was up in age and then conveniently meets a man with a foot in the art world and with similar taste so she can't help herself. It is rather magical.
I agree he does not understand the meaning of love as he discarded Mary his own offspring by faking his own death. Sure he had a fractured upbringing being reared by alcoholics but that shame did not have to stay with him through life; a personality disorder is also at play here as his mother mentioned him being selfish as well. After he assumed the identity of Jack Saunders he was accepted with those credentials and it opened up a whole new world for him; unfortunately this would not have been possible with his past so society and the maltreatment of those of poor means is something partly to blame.
The scene where Jack asked her, "Didn't you feel loved?" creeped me out a bit because I think he was showing that it can be faked (or that he could lead a double life as long as she felt loved, whether he actually loved her or not).
There are couples who never fight. Even if they're not happy with something that has happened, it's just not worth it to fight over it. The result of fighting is worse than what they're ignoring, I guess.
My husband has a lot of stress with his job so when he does something I don't like, I make a point of letting it pass, for example.
The last thing I want to do on this Earth is to add to his stress. I know that if I made his stress worse, I would feel horrible about it and it just isn't worth it. Whatever he does that I don't like is far less worrisome than feeling guilty for stressing him out about it.
So I let it flow past me like a fleeting gust of wind that I can handle.
I'm not faking anything - I honestly decide not to sweat the small things because it's more important to me that I'm not making his life more difficult than it is already. It's a choice I'm happy to make. Other than a few small things, he is extremely loving towards me and kind, attentive and patient with everything that goes on in a busy family.
What does this have to do with the movie? Jack could fake loving her and making her happy for his own goals (although his goals were dishonest, illegal and murderous).