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Arthur's status / motives / relations to Peter


I remember my reaction when I saw this movie on tv (quite a long time ago):
one of the most arousing movies ever; highly disturbing in its explicit cruelty (the shocking content is justified; but never let children watch it all on their own - it can do more damage to a child's soul than a million porn flicks!)

Like many a spectator, I had problems to understand it. As I do not believe in any kind of esoterics, I did not think of something supernatural for a second; anything at this level I thought to be a dream, or religious hallucination, or the like. Neither would something like a spiritual guide come to my mind.

So what I saw was the story of Arthur, an Indian who had good control of himself ouside of himself, but was so furious and hateful inside about the ecological damages that capitalism does with its insatiable greed for more money and its lackeys (white ones mostly where he lived) and what they did to his natural environment that his fury made him go too far in his revenge (maybe encouraged by the tradition of the torture peg that some Indian tribes had - don't know which ones).

The other constituting motive of Arthur seemed to be some kind of *beep* intentions he seemed to have on Peter, who is a guy with good intentions - in his own view, at least - , and really trying to follow them, but who was somewhat timid when things got tougher. Remember the scenes in the hotel, with the bunch of noisy @ssholes next door: Peter complained, but did not dare to risk a fight, so the bunch went on. Arthur showed Peter to control his fears and take the action that took him to his goal.

Arthur's motive was not quite clear to me: did he really try to educate Peter? Did he want to help him become a better man (in whatever sense)? Did he want to HELP him? Did he want to make Peter ashamed of himself to humiliate him? Or did he want to have a worthier enemy against whom it was more honourable to fight? Was it for an own wish of his to get his room quiet? Or maybe he was just bored and wanted some fun?

Similarly, I was not sure about Arthur's motives in the woods. Revenge? Educating Peter? What for? A cruel cat-and-mouse-game of a cruel man? Other motives? Which ones?

In some phase, Arthur turned to Bud the manager (and tortured him), away from Peter, whom he obviously despised as a coward, despised him so much that for him, Peter just seemed not to be around. This does not sound like the "spiriual guide" theory to me!

Otherwise: When Arthur seemed to drown in the end, he sank down in the water, holding eye-contact, but gave no air-bubbles: this is more like the ghost theory.

What a pity that I cannot remember the beginning of the movie (people said it would give clues). What (exactly) happened?

Did anybody read the novel? That would make it all clear, I guess!

Any way: a great movie - and worth more than just 6.2 points! (I give it 8))

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You have an interesting perspective...what about the little girl that kept showing up? I am not sure if I have settled my ideas about what I think the deeper meaning is in this movie. Or perhaps I just don't want to think about anger as taking on a life of it's own.

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I just see it as the inner struggle that one has with becoming that which he/she must battle against. Arthur sevres as the darkest parts of a moral man's desire for what he sees as right.
Peter McGuire- "That's enough!"
Arthur- "Enough? This is only one man's leg."
Clearcut not only serves to show a particular situation but the difficulty in dealing with it or any similar situation in which morals differ and yet seem in check.

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I'm of the opinion that Arthur is a nature spirit. Soon after Arthur first meets Peter, when they are riding in the canoe, Peter asks Arthur where he is from. In answer, Arthur flicks lake water at Peter. At the end, Arthur returns to the lake.

I think Arthur's name is also a key. The legendary King Arthur was supposed to return in the future to save Britain when it was threatened. Clear Cut's Arthur returns to try to save the Ojibwa lands.

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Arthur and the little girl were Spirits. It is the first American Indian thriller that I truly found fascinating.

We shoulda rented a car.
We have my pony.
Your pony is an old nag.

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The spirit is what is referred to as a "Trickster." It plays a huge part in Native American mythology...

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I wouldn't consider Arthur the Trickster.

We shoulda rented a car.
We have my pony.
Your pony is an old nag.

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