OMG, I so totally hated this movie too! But I thought the Jesuits were, like, the ones they portrayed wrongly and dissrespectfully! I mean, like, I dated a Catholic for 11 days, and their nothing like that! Like, they look so stinky and dirty thru-out the whole movie, and that just isn't how they are and its disrespectful to they're culture and stuff. And when that guy gets his finger cut off by the sea shell, he so totally wusses out, and like if they want to protray Catholics like that in the movies whatever but my boyfriend would have totally, like, kicked that Indian's ass. Also, whatss with the black robes all the time? Its not like their goths or something, Catholics are like pro-life and stuff. The whole thing was just rediculous and I know a lot about Indian culture from watching films like Gandhi and, like, they didn't have that right either, but they're appraisal of the Catholic caricatures was even worse. I am righting a letter write now on behalf of my Freshman English class protesting this awful film!
Themill, your post is excellent. I think you would have achieved your point better had you CAPLOCKED certain portions of it. Seems to be what they teach to us English majors.
Truth is, we've all read the books, but it's impossible for us to really know what it was like 350 years ago.
ps. one other thing... as a person of both catholic and native heritage, I didn't find this movie offensive to my people at all.
Hoo, for shame! Caps Lock is TOO evil, even in fun. No disrespect to English majors intended, by the way. Spent four years as one myself, and the next four trying to get a job. :)
I had to watch this for my history class, and after doing some research I found that the author of the book actually tried to show the Indians in a better light than what his research suggested...so I guess, is it offensive if its historically accurate? Just because these indians acted this way, it doesn't, to me, convey a message that all native americans were bad or evil or stupid...Plus you say that your ex was a Cherokee, but, correct if I'm wrong, the Indians in this movie were not Cherokee...
I've seen this film quite a few times and I am surprised at some of the reactions from readers on this board. It seems pretty fair from an historical perspective considering the times and cultures it concerns itself with.
The native americans (and canadians) depicted were cultures alien to all those who assumed the status of conqueror/colonizer, and as much as they may have had societal positives amongst themselves, toward enemies or competitors they also had some rather brutal habits. Which is not to say that usurping cultures, such as the French, Spanish or English, did not. Historical accounts will support this with no question.
I don't think you can compare the view of the parties involved in this drama with insulting portrayals of same in so many other films.
Step on it! And don't spare the atoms!
That's perfect :) Thank you for that!
Am I the only on who actually sees a problem with the post o.o''
First of all your using your boyfriend/girlfriend to compare with a Jesuit Priest that is portrayed centuries ago.
2ndly your saying that the guy wusses out when he gets his finger cuts off> in what way did he wuss out. If my memory serves me correctly he simply held in the pain and back away. And lets see you get your finger cut off.
3rd of all your using the term Catholic in the wrong manner. about 1 in 5 people are Catholics, that doesnt mean their all going to kick that "Indian's Ass"
4th Black Robes don't mean Goth. Not even close. Does your black Tees mean Goth?
Even today in modern times Father's wear black robes, besides the color can you find a argument that actually shows them as Goths. And if your going to refer to the whipping he does on his back, thats just a ritual they do when they have sinned/
5th your grammar is not to be offensive but terrible
if you're referring to themill's post, it was obviously sarcasm... a send-up of the OP.
I suspect many many things just seem odd and out of place to you in this world. That is a shame. I suggest you turn FOX news back on. They are looking out for you. They will take care of all the thinking so you can just sit back and take direction and know who is to blame. People like themill are obviously products of the liberal school systems and have no business in the thinking world. They clearly are also serving an anti-Christian agenda, just like this movie!