It's almost like German is a synonym for Evil in Hollywood. Only reason I can think of is WW2. Or is there another reason why Germans are often being portrayed as Evil/"Bad Guys"?
"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness for father's sins cast to his son."
He's not supposed to be German. The accent of the death is more east european (Czech or something)!
shareHaha, seriously? Well then Mr. Sadler should stick to playing American characters.. But my question about the portrayal of Germans still stands. Anyone?
"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness for father's sins cast to his son."
He does sound a bit German, but I don't consider it to be any connection to evil as such. I just thought having a funny accent made him even more pathetic.
sharemore like Romanian. Transylvania. thats why. they usually use that accent for characters such as these h
shareThat Family Guy quote is something like: "You know those Germans, if you don't join the party, they come get you"...
Granted, Bogus Journey pre-dates that line, but looking back on the Teutonic accent decision with a slanted eye, it still makes a lotta sense! If you're not willing to pass peacefully on into the afterlife, then it's the Grim Reaper's job to drag you there... and he's German...
It's made from bits of real panther, so you know it's good...
Heh-heh, I think we can all agree upon that Seth MacFarlane is a genius, and I see your point.=)
But do you all agree upon that the main reason for the portrayal of Germans is WW2?
"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness for father's sins cast to his son."
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Generic Eastern European accent, I think he was aiming at. A reference to the Swedish film The Seventh Seal, where the whole idea of playing Death for your life is lifted from
shareGeneric Eastern European accent, I think he was aiming at. A reference to the Swedish film The Seventh Seal, where the whole idea of playing Death for your life is lifted from
Sweden is a part of Western-Europe
speak with a North-Germanic accent, which sounds nothing like Eastern-European ones
Or, as most American actors seem to think, a Non-American accent :-)
god you're an idiot. you challenge the relation between swedish and german "ACCENTS(?)," [whose accent?; furthermore why not wax poetic further like a bigger internet to explicitly state that they are not even in the same language family?] oh the image of death blah blah, kill yourself, please! your image of death, whose? its a direct f*%^ reference to the seventh seal, death, a PALE FACE, BLACK ROBE, playing A GAME FOR SOMEONE'S LIFE! are you on drugs? if so, can i have some to get away from the reality where people like you are still allowed to procreate? sterilize this fool. i wouldnt get so upset if it didn't seem like you actually cared about the subject: enough to simply argue against the very theme in which BOTH MOVIES ARE LINKED! you posted this about a year ago, so im hoping you have already rid yourself of the gene pool.
"You mean the guy can't even grow his own hair?! COME ON!"
at first i thought you were all confused because remember william sadler had a 10 second role as a familyfather just before the credits came up? i think THERE he was supposed to be german right ? i least i recognized it to be a german accent but now that you talking all about swedish maybe it was a swedish family i didn't hear it that clear...
shareremember william sadler had a 10 second role as a familyfather just before the credits came up? i think THERE he was supposed to be german right ?
That's right. It's actually Sadler's real-life wife (Marni Joan Bakst) there with him, and although the role is uncredited in the movie itself she's credited here on IMDb as "English Mother".
Death's accent in Bogus Journey is a comedic reference to The Seventh Seal. It's just Sadler doing a broad comedic impression of a generic Euro art-house cinema accent, and it doesn't actually match-up with any real-world accent.
It's a goofy comedy movie; the absurdity is more important than the accuracy! If anything, I'd say Sadler based it on Max von Sydow's English-speaking accent. Max von Sydow was the protagonist, Antonius Block, in The Seventh Seal - the man who played chess vs Death in the film.
Who challenged any relations between accents?! I simply stated that "Death" spoke with an accent much more similar to German than to Swedish!
[FYI; they are in the same language family, you inbred *beep*
Furthermore, the image of death, DEATH as a character, has been a huge part of human folklore and superstition for millennia. And the idea of DEATH being portrayed as a person, more accurately as a pale faced man/woman wearing a black robe and playing a game for someone's life was commonly believed across all of europe during the Black Plague in the 1340s. So the "Death character" in "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey" might as well have been based on the same HISTORICAL FOLKLORE which "The Seventh Seal" was based on, rather than referencing to the movie itself. You might even have grasped this yourself and not have had a complete fu**ing meltdown, if you based your knowledge on something besides movie trivia.
I based my assumption that Death was being portrayed as German simply on the fact that his accent sounded more GERMAN than SWEDISH! And I'm TRULY sorry if this leap of thought r@ped your evolutinary dead end of a mind back to the stoneage.
BOTH MOVIES ARE LINKED because they SHARE the same portrayal of Death as a character,-
in the same way "Dracula", "Twilight" and "Vampire$" ARE LINKED in the way they all portray vampires as beings who feed on humans by drinking their blood.
you posted this about a year ago, so im hoping you have already rid yourself of the gene pool.
Well I think there are a few reasons that result in this consistent portrayal. For one, as far back as the late 19th century many English novelists started replacing Frenchman with Germans as antagonists. The French particularly viewed them as a threat since they were neighbors. WWI brought alot of propoganda and the Germans were unfairly singled out as being the instigators and root of the war.
Then obviously there WWII with Hitler who is basically been viewed as pure evil since then. Hollywood spent the next 15 years or so churning out one war movie after another about WWII. To this day it seems like a big WWII movie comes about just about every year or so. So this portrayal is constantly being shown still.
Finally... and I think this portion is underestimated. There really wasn't much rehabbing of the Germans' image since WWII. While West Germany was one of our allies, the East Germans up until the 1990s were still considered the enemy as they were a satellite for the Soviets. So popular culture basically spent 100 years from the 1890s to the 1990s with Germans accurately portraying the enemy of American interests.
Anyways, thats my 2 cents on the matter.
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the whole movie revolves around challenging death to a game for the right to be brought back from the dead.
It's swedish.
Because he's based on Death from ingmar Bergman's Seventh Seal and that is a swedish film.
think about it tho..he was made to be the bad guy but in the end he was cool! so think about THAT....
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