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Buck and Stephanie are bot h guilty


I have read and reread this book many times and watched the movie. It is only my opinion, but I feel not only are both of them murderers but that Bugliosi in his books expressed many times his own disbeliefs of her story. I think he had ideas this would rake in alot of money in book and movie deals and that is one reason he took this case on. He is a shrewd guy, but he did'nt convince me whatsoever of her not knowing and participating. Remember the pictues that were developed that showed her smiling and someone testified they BOTH were drooling and dreaming of their next boat. His ex-wife said he would draw pictues of boats and the Grahams boats was almost identical. I believe Stephanie was tired of eating fish and coconuts,tired of the island and scared to sail in their leaky boat. How convenient they are missing on the night before they are to sail on a boat most had told them would never make the long trip? I think they concocked the story and vowed never to testify against each other.If she testified against him, he certainly would have blown her cover and her obvious guilt would be exposed. She was photographed wearing a blouse of Muff's, ate their food, let Buck try to disguise the boat, flushed evidence down the toilet and no matter how much she liked Mac, her own survival mattered more then his. Bugliosiwas very slick to prosecute Buck knowing Buck was unable to rat on Stephanie without implicating himself.He made her seem like she was swabbing, baking and being Suzie homemakerwhileBuck was murdering the Grahams all alone. There is a woman on here peddling a self serving book by Buck and is proboly profitting off the book sales. He can't promote a book in prison so she is proboly collecting the money and saving it for him. I would'nt buy that pack of lies, as it's obvious he's just looking to line his pockets off their deaths.
Bugliosi almost demanded the jury see "reasonable doubt"and set about giving them ways to let her off. He said she acted odd all the time he was setting up her defence, and I think it was because she knew she was guilty and maybe had alittle concience bothing her. Maybe she was in alittle shock at the brutality of the murders so she closed herself up to protect herself. Stephanie says in her diary that Buck ate alot of their food on the way down, could'nt fish without shooting them and would'nt help her sail much so she should have killed him as he was'nt good for anything. Just my thoughts as most proboly won't agree.

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I agree competely this book and movie..and the entire ase has always bothered me!!
I think Jennifer got away with murder.

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I'm not sure how much she participated beforehand, or whether she participated directly, but it might not matter. What I'm sure about is she knew after it happened, which she claimed she didn't. I find that impossible, simply based on logic.

Also can't say Bugliosi did it all for money. I think some attorneys need to "believe" in their clients at some level to mount a successful defense. She was fortunate to have a skilled lawyer; otherwise, I think she would have been convicted, deservedly so.

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Jennifer was defintely as guilty of this crime as Buck was. It bothered me that she was so willing to help not one killer, but two. She had no problem going along with everything Buck was doing. She wore Muff's clothing and it was she who filled out the salvage claim. She contradicted herself in the book by first saying that she could see the lagoon and everything that was going on while on the Iola, then on a couple of pages later she said she couldn't see anything when she was in the boat. On direct her memory was perfect, on cross exam, she wasn't sure about anyting. It really gets me angry to hear a guilty person say they "can't recall." That statement is the difference between perjury and getting away with a lie.

I don't think that Buck could have put that container with Muff in the boat alone. If he also chopped up Mac and put him in another container, then he definitely needed help. The two of them wanted off the island and they knew the only way that was going to happen was to kill Muff and Mac, then take the Sea Wind. Jennifer(Stephanie) is a liar and a killer.

Vincent knew she was guilty, but he didn't care. All his talk about only defending innocent people was a crock of crap. He was getting the money and it was a high profile case; that was enough for him.

My husband and I enjoy camping. We have come across more Jennifer and Bucks than we care to remember. They are moochers who won't bring enough supplies for themselves so the minute you pull up to the campsite, they come a borrowing. Or when they smell dinner, here they come trying to start a conversation and a helping of food.

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I agree with you that Jennifer knew what was going on and was a willing participant. Its just too bad that she escaped prison time for her part. Hopefully, she understands that the world watches her as a guilty person just the same.

As for your camping comment, I can relate to that, too. On a recent trip, there was a "homeless" type family in a beat up old RV near us. They couldn't even get it started to leave when the park rangers told them to pay up on park fees or leave, so they were hanging around wondering what to do. The park rangers had to tell them to keep their dog on a leash because they were letting it run all over the place bothering other campers with defecation and such. Finally, the most annoying part, the woman's son literally walked past our camp to scope us out & see what might be stolen. The mother just happened to sit within feet of our camp to talk on her cell phone hoping we would be friendly and thus open the door to them "borrowing" something while we were gone. So, we had to pack up most everything whenever we left for touring the area and take it with us. As you say, the "Bucks and Jennifers" of this world suck.

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yeah that camping kid was probably gonna murder you guys and burn your bodies.

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I think Stephanie Stearns was up to he lying mouth in these murders. She strikes me as the type of woman who likes to live vicariously through a violent man and is often an instigator of his violence. The only way she could not have known what Buck was up to was if she has an IQ of a doorknob.

Bugliosi shows once again that he is certifiable in for his vehement insistence about her innocence. I am not faulting him for defending her. Everyone is entitled to legal representation. But Bugliosi would be better off just leaving it at that. He has recently shown himself to be a zealot crackpot. He went ballistic on the Dennis Miller show when Dennis tried to ask some reasonable questions.

I like a man who is a strong advocate for his point of view but Bugliosi has gone over the top. The Stearns case may be a harbinger of his fanaticism.

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There is no "justice" when the defense attorney believes his own BS that his "duty" is to fight tooth and nail to keep a person out of prison.... at all costs.... despite lies..... despite risk to society.

True "justice" would only be accomplished when the defense attorney's of America tell their so called "client" that they need to plead guilty to the crime and THEN the attorney would do his best to minimize the prison term.

I've witnessed myself a defense attorney lying in court. And look at the mafia defense attorney's. The "ethical" BS from the defense attorney crowd simply sucks. They say / do anything for their own fame and a paycheck.... even defending killers who they know to be killers. Defense attorneys are merely prostitutes who sell their services to the highest bidder.

Bugliosi is typical of an attorney. While he was paid a regular check to be a prosecutor, he was okay. But being the greedy scum defense attorney's are, he switched his focus from "justice" to "duty" in this case. His "duty" ..... of course...... was to make himself the hero and collect some cash.... because his government prosecutor paychecks weren't rolling in any longer. Oh, sorry, his "duty" also included keeping his "client" out of prison.... even though he KNEW she was a conspirator at a minimum and a participant in the murders as a likelihood.

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If Bugliosi had been defending Manson instead of PROSECUTING him, ol' Charley would have been made into a struggling musician who somehow got caught up in a murderous cult. Poor guy.

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Stephanie got off because she had a good attorney that was able to manipulate the jury. I don't think Vincent really believed she was innocent. He certainly didn't sound like he believed her at times in the movie or book.

If Stephanie hadn't come from a good family with money to pay Vincent she would be sitting in jail now, right where she belongs.

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if stephanie was buck's accomplice in the murders why wouldn't they have dumped the bodies in the middle of the ocean when they sailed back?
the only reason to dump them in such a dumb place as the lagoon was that time was of the essence and he was hiding the murders from stephanie.

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I always felt that argument made sense. The only think I could see would be Stephanie getting hysterical or something and demanding they get rid of the bodies and not have them stinking up the boat. But that is a very puny rebuttal. I feel that Buck had to hide the bodies from Stephanie, and this is how he did it. But who can really know, other than Buck and Stephanie?

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You're absolutely correct.

Bugliousi took the case because he could see $$$ on the horizon. Criminal defense lawyers are scum.

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I believe they dumped the bodies in the lagoon because it was easier and less messy than carrying them off on one of the boats. Also, there were a lot of sharks in the lagoon. They probably figured that the bodies would be eaten by sharks, or in Muff's case, just never found because no diver could swim there safely.

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if they thought the bodies would be eaten by sharks, why would they put them in metal boxes?

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