Age limit 12 in Germany !!
Hi, I'm from Germany. I've seen this movie and I was surprised: The age limit in Germany is 12 ! What do you think about it ?
Wormatia 4-Ever
Wow, I am shocked! Is the German version edited? Because the movie is very explicit, and it was originally NC-17( which means you have to be 18 or older to see it) here. But, It is still a great film!
shareNope, non-edited and uncut that movie. Normally the age limit is 16 when it's an erotic-movie ( 18 for hard erotic-movies and Pornos). But if it's a documentation about sexuality the age limit is sometimes 12, sometimes 16. Depending on sexual explicitness, brutality, rape scenes, and so on.
But NC-17 is not really often used, is it ? The most movies including sex scenes are rated R, aren't they ?
Wormatia 4-Ever
Yeah, NC-17 is a rating that a few movies get, generally if the sex is really explicit, but usually, they make an editied R-version, and an unrated uncut version which This film "L'amant" is now here! Typically, Movies that are rated NC-17 have a highly disturbing depiction of sex and/or violence, cruelty etc. all taken to an extreme hardcore effect, and can be very hard to watch! This was probably changed because it is a highly emotional documentation of sexuality, not gutwrenching offense! But, some NC-17 FILMS ARE VERY GOOD EX. "Last Tango In Paris"- and others are highly shocking Ex."The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, & Her Lover"! Is this film popular German? And what other films are rated 16 that would be considered adult here?
share"The Cook, the Thief, His Wife + Her Lover" is popular, yeah. But it's rated 18.
"Last Tango in Paris", "Dreamers", "Henry and June": all rated 16 in Germany, in the USA NC-17 because of sexuality. X-rated movies are all rated 18.
Wormatia 4-Ever
Thanx, Henry and June is a film i've always wondered about! Movies are no longer rated X because it was officially changed to NC-17, and alot of the old X films are now R and unrated just because they were very shocking for their
times, but not today EX. The 1962 version of Lolita was once rated X but now it is something alot of the world can see if they can look past the stigma!
Are you sure the age limit 12 version is non-edited? Because it has only 110 minutes runtime...I tried to get an uncut version of the movie, but there's only the 110 minutes version available. Since the original movie has 115 minutes runtime, there must be 5 minutes missing.
It's in PAL therefore 110 min = 115 min.
shareHow does PAL affect the total length of the film?!?! PAL is 50 fps non-interlaced, and NTSC is 60 fps interlaced. Film is [usually] 24 fps non-interlaced. But a second is a second, and 60 of them makes a minute, and 115 of them makes 115 minutes.
If you played a 115 minute movie in 110 minutes, regardless of the frame rate, it would look like people were walking somehow weirdly fast, and talking in high pitched voices along the lines of the chipmunks---granted, not to an extreme degree, but it would be noticable.
No, it doesn't affect voices and music that way; the distortion is far to be enough to be noticed by a human hear.
I live in Italy I grant you this difference in length is absolutely; we can actually also see the picture lower quality when the camera move laterally, because of different technology.
But all of that apply to video releases: PAL and NTSC are video standards...
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How does PAL affect the total length of the film?!?! PAL is 50 fps non-interlaced, and NTSC is 60 fps interlaced. Film is [usually] 24 fps non-interlaced. But a second is a second, and 60 of them makes a minute, and 115 of them makes 115 minutes.It is because when film is transferred to NTSC it is projected at 24 frames per second with a special pulldown and shutter set-up to match to the 60 frame rate. But with PAL the telecine projects at 25 frames per second which matches well with the 50 field rate of PAL all on its own. But it means that it is sped up. The sound is affected the most in terms of pereception since the pitch is changed. This can be adjusted back electronically but the run time is still sped up.
If you played a 115 minute movie in 110 minutes, regardless of the frame rate, it would look like people were walking somehow weirdly fast, and talking in high pitched voices along the lines of the chipmunks---granted, not to an extreme degree, but it would be noticable.
Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...
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by jiffypack
» Thu Nov 16 2006 03:49:30
IMDb member since October 2006
It's in PAL therefore 110 min = 115 min.
Blu-Ray is 23.976fps or 24.000fps, there is no PAL or NTSC. Also nowadays rarely movies get speed up to PAL or NTSC format, the runtime doesn't change.
Anyway the Blu-Ray German release is 110minutes. So 5minutes are missing. So it's not the full unrated cut.
This german site says it's 115minutes instead, so it would be the full unrated uncut version:
http://www.bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-filme/der-liebhaber-1992-blu-ray-dis c
Verpackung:
HD Keep Case
Altersfreigabe:
FSK: Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren
Sprachen:
Deutsch DTS-HD MA 2.0
Englisch DTS-HD MA 2.0
Untertitel:
Deutsch für Hörgeschädigte, Englisch
Region:
B
Disc Kapazität:
BD-50 GB
Bildformat(e):
1920x1080p (1.85:1)
Video-Codec:
MPEG-4/AVC
Spieldauer:
115 Minuten
Veröffentlichung:
28.10.2011 (Release)
Oh, well, just to be sure I ordered it...
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