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one of the few black shows i liked )





they did have that lame aunt that tryed to be funny, or some nerdy guy that lived next door, it was really good , one of the best shows from the early 90s i was 12 when i saw this show back in 92, i loved it. it was so different from the cookie cutter black shows like family matters, or moesha, or the smart guy. it was amazing. i'm white by the way





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i'm white by the way


I'm stunned. lol

Seriously, I do happen to agree with you. So-called "Black" shows typically reflect far too many aspects of "Black Culture" for other races to fully understand or comfortably relate to, thus we can't really "get into" the shows and enjoy them. It's only natural, of course. I'm half Indian (American, not dot-in-the-forehead Indian, heh heh) and half White, so natch' I can relate to characters that are more like myself.

I can easily see me being the only one in the room laughing if we were watching some comedy set entirely on a reservation, or focusing on Indians. I've told my share of tribal in-jokes to white people, and most just stare at me in confusion (which, to be honest, is just as funny). :)

Roc, on the other hand, was somewhat different. I can't be sure, as it's been so many years since I've seen the show, but if I recall correctly it didn't force the culture down the viewer's throat. The situations were ones that could effect anyone, regardless of race (most of the time, anyway) and the reactions of the people, as well as the dialogue, maintained a relative "human norm" that all could relate to. The protagonists were black, but the show didn't really cater, or perhaps I should say pander, to just a black audience. Black, White, Red, Yellow... we all shared a giggle.

I will say this, though. It's always fun when one culture gets a show that does cater/pander to it, but sadly that usually ensures a quick death in the ratings, at least in today's market. Back in the '70s, when we only had a few channels to choose from this wasn't a big factor, since people watched what was available, even if they couldn't relate --I very much doubt that Good Times or The Jeffersons would have lasted more than a few eps had they premiered within the last 20 years.




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@The-Kurgan



Seriously, I do happen to agree with you. So-called "Black" shows typically reflect far too many aspects of "Black Culture" for other races to fully understand or comfortably relate to, thus we can't really "get into" the shows and enjoy them.



Honestly, as a black person, it irritates the hell out of me when someone claims nobody can relate to black shows or African-American culture because they're too "black", which is basically what you're saying. That is a stupid statement for one reason---the shows that written by and about black people are naturally going to reflect the concerns and issues of black people (at least they did back in the '90s,when ROC was made) and,like the new show BLACK-ISH does. Also, black American culture is not even that damn hard to relate to, because, hello, we ARE American culture. Black American culture is not some damn weird esoteric thing that nobody but black people can understand. We go to work,school, have fun, take vacations and do pretty much everything everybody else does. And just because YOU don't understand black culture (or don't even try to) it dosen't mean that nobody else does, because it's not about you anyway. That is such a stuck-up,smug, arrogant way to look at a black show, as if there's something wrong with it because it dosen't cater to you---well,duh, it's not even ABOUT you,so why the hell should it cater to you? Black people watch stuff with people in them all the time who don't look like them or that they can't relate to---that's second nature to us. I'm black and I could relate to the show because for once I could see a show about people who looked like me for a change.


And if you don't understand a particular culture, you do some research on it, or ask members of that culture questions about things you don't understand. I've been into foreign cinema for years (African, Asian, and European,for example) and whenever I didn't understand certain cultural things about the film I didn't get, I'd look up info on it,which made me appreciate the films better, because I know a little more about the culture it came from.

Also, why the hell do black shows in particular always have to be "universal"? The assumptions is that nobody can relate to anything but shows with white people because they and only they can be universal---that's some bull****, too, because ALL people can not relate to all of these silly-a** sitcoms about white people all the time,either.

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This is probably one of the best black shows they ever did for TV. I don't remember the lame aunt. Yeah, the nerdy guy was Crazy George, right? Played by some guy named Jaime Foxx, whatever happened to him?

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Lol. The nerdy guy is steve urcle.

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