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Randy cancer scare episode


Was this one the most serious episode of the entire series? I got a little choked up when What A Wonderful World played over the montage of the kids. Poor kid, I hated to see him cry. At least it was a false alarm and everything turned out fine

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Yeah it's a pretty intense episode.

The only other one I can think of that's like that, is the one where Jill lies to avoid her parents coming to see them, and then learns her Father passed away.

Both episodes are major tearjerkers. ?

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I just watched this again recently with my daughter. My husband and I were both crying watching it. I remember crying first time around, but now that I have a child, it just ripped me to pieces! It was so well acted! For me, it was Jill's reaction early on that really got me.

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Definitely one of the most serious ones.

There was another one, from season 8, called "Love's Labor Lost", in which Jill has to get a hysterectomy. The surgery goes on longer than it should, with Tim waiting and worrying in the waiting room, with a little consolation from Wilson. There is comparable drama in the episode like in "The Longest Day", aka Randy's cancer scare episode, because Jill goes into shock during surgery.

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I completely forgot that about Jill. It was a serious and frightening episode. But this just shows what a great show this is. The viewer really cares for the characters.

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I always get very emotional when there are shows with kids who are ill or in peril. One key thing that the show did was, it gave Jonathan an opportunity to play a very dramatic role as opposed to his usual character.
I have always applauded his comedic timing but he did very well in a more dramatic role as well.
I'm glad that they included shows like these. It reflects real life situations that real families face.
It was very touching and handled very well.

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i found it a little overdramatic, to be honest. maybe it's because i was diagnosed with hypothyreoism when i was 18, or because my mom had surgery on her thyroid twice, that i didn't really get why they assumed the worst when these things usually turn out to be rather harmless (like it did on the show).
but i think they did well with the drama/humor ratio. wasn't too depressing because there were jokes in between.

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crazy overdramatic. and false. blood tests can't detect this cancer. not back then, not in 2003. I lived with cancer for 7 years before finding out I even had cancer. blood tests done every time I went to the doctor. nothing ever showed up.

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sorry to hear you had thyroid cancer, i hope all is well now.

it didn't even cross my mind that it's impossible to diagnose this type of cancer by blood tests... ;) my impression was that the doctor felt a lump or something odd on Randy's neck and if the test came back positive for hypothyroidism, cancer was off the table (it's not, but whatever). but you're completely right. first comes the blood test, then an ultrasound and if they actually find a nodule (i'm not even sure it's that easy to feel them?) they have to take a biopsy to know whether it's benign or not. then there's also scintigraphy to find out more about how the thyroid works and what's up with the nodule.

but they blew this thing way out of proportion. it's so unlikely to have this type of cancer (unfortunately still a lot of people do), especially when you're a kid, yet this was the first thing that came to mind.

when i realized i might have thyroid issues, i went to the doctor, got a blood test - it came back with high TSH levels, and the doctor wouldn't even treat the hypothyroidism right away! no word about "maybe it's cancer" or anything similar, it was just like "welp, a lot of people have thyroid issues, if you get more symptoms we'll treat it" and that was that.

but it's just fiction, i don't mind them being a little overdramatic or getting some things wrong. i understand why it bothers you, though.

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thanks. yeah. sorry to hear about your troubles.

remember that the thyroid is crazy small and it does so much. so if anything is going to go first it is the thyroid.

what just really upset me was the twenty four hour blood test results. blood tests take longer and you can't test for cancer via blood test. they are setting it up for others to say: oh, well Randy got his results in a day and they were able to detect cancer with the blood test.

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well, when i get my thyroid hormones check by blood test, i have the results the same day. i go in before 10 a.m. usually and have the results by 4 p.m., so 24 hours for "normal" blood tests isn't unusual (there's lots of blood tests that only take a few hours), but i agree, you can't know whether you have cancer or not in a day. probably takes weeks if not months, because a blood test simply isn't enough

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Hormones is one thing and completely normal to get the results back within a few hours. you just can't test blood for Thyroid cancer and you also can't get the thyroid cancer test results back [and have it be accurate] in 24 hours. it just doesn't work that way. either way, that is what the show was leading everyone to think.



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that episode infuriates me to no end. having that cancer, I can assure you the blood test does not come back in one day. not in a long shot. the results can also be masked. it says you are cancer free when you indeed have cancer. in fact, I don't think a simple blood test CAN test for cancer. at least, in 2003 it couldn't.

I had a nodule on my right side of my thyroid. it was solid so a small needle biopsy did not do a thing. I needed a large needle biopsy. the part they got was not cancer. fine.

so fast forward six years when the nodule is still there and so is the goiter on that side of my thyroid. so I have that side removed. I am on the table, opened up when they remove that side and take the nodule up to the lab to be looked at. [if they found cancer, they would take the other side of the thyroid to save trouble] they found nothing so they close me up.

come 6 weeks later I get the final results back... they had chopped up every little bit of the thyroid and nodule and cancer cells were indeed present. so I was scheduled for another surgery to get rid of the other half.


so it was 6 years for a diagnoses. and I had blood drawn every time I went to the endocrinologist/head and neck surgeon [also my ENTdr]. cancer never showed up.

this show was a lie.



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I think a lot of the more serious episodes involve Randy. I thought the one where he got in the fight at school was pretty serious since it was out of his character.

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I haven't seen the show in years but this is one episode I do remember vividly. I had a friend as a kid who had leukemia and watching her go through it was frightening. When this episode originally aired I hoped he didn't have it because it would take the show from a comedy into a drama. The whole show would change.

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I wonder if when it originally aired, everyone thought Randy was going to end up having some sort of cancer. This is actually Jonathan Taylor Thomas's favorite episode.

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TEST WAS NEGATIVE! THAT'S A GOOD THING, BUT A CANCER SCARE JUST THE SAME!

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