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Klaus Didn't Do It!!

posted 19 years ago by sanctifiedminister
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Hey everybody:

I was thinking about this movie today (it is one of my favorites); and I think I know what happened to Sunny.

Now; don't shoot me; but I don't think Klaus did it. Nope, I don't think he killed her at all.

First of all: Klaus loved Sunny and knew that his children loved their mother very much. Even if her old kids (which weren't by him) did't really love him; they loved their mother and he had a daughter by Sunny was well that loved her mother. I don't think Klaus would do anything to wreck that.

Secondly, Klaus really didn't need Sunny's money because all of his friends had money and he could get a hold of it if he needed to. Remember, when his girlfriend was happy because they got their $1 million bail back that she put up for Klaus? People don't just put up that kind of bail money if they don't have it to lose. Klaus and Sunny hung out in some very rich circles of friends. Also, Klaus was a lawyer himself (remember, when he even told Alan that Alan's fee was enormous for defending him and he himself didn't even charge that much).

Thirdly, you have to remember that Sunny was a woman scorned; she got those letters from Alexandra that Klaus wrote when they were dating eaching other. Sunny was a wreck after that and broke down; started drinking heavily and was already taking drugs just because she wanted to, had access to them, and had the money to buy them. So, Sunny was a very unhappy woman with a lot of money and time on her hands. According to Richard Pryor; those are the two worse things a person can be; rich with a lot of time on their hands; and (he ought to know, look what he did to himself). Sunny was also distraught because to her a divorce was a sign of failure, and she had been divorced once already. Remember, when she told Klaus that she didn't want to be a two-time loser.

Fourthly, Sunny was a controlling person and wasn't used to being in situations of which she wasn't in control of. Her being divorced would mean that she couldn't control what was happening in her life or marriage; and not something she was going to take.

So; who put Sunny in that coma; I belive she did it to herself. She knew all about drugs and their effects; she had been taking them for years. Also, she knew that Klaus would be a prime suspect and get charged for her murder; what a way to get back at him for having an affair and embarrasing her in front of her friends and family. That old saying "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" is right, some women get back at men by keying his car, causing confusion at his job; etc. That kind of fury doesn't last a lifetime. But; Sunny was out to get revenge and get revenge she did. She had the money, the time, the opportunity, and the ability to do so; and she did.

These are just my thoughts on this, and I have thought this through as you can tell. There is nothing like a good, old-fashioned mystery. This is one of the best cases of all time, and one of the great movies; Jeremy Irons and Glenn Close did an awesome job. The rest of the cast was good too; they need to make more movies like these; that are entertaining, which makes you thihk, and that have more than one possible conclusions.

D.B.Knox
Chicago, IL

[–] imdb_email-1 19 years ago

Change the title of your post.

[–] borglaw00 18 years ago

Wasnt there like 10 characters named "Alex" or someting similar in this movie?

[–] Dennis_Cooper 18 years ago

Of course Klaus didn't kill her. She's still alive isn't she??

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[–] xredgarnetx 18 years ago

It was pretty plain at the time that Klaus did in fact inject his wife. There was never really any question about it. The kids found the main evidence.

[–] ragreen259 18 years ago

" Klaus really didn't need Sunny's money because all of his friends had money and he could get a hold of it if he needed to"

yeah, OK... if you say so.

[–] doctor_electro 18 years ago

uhm, how about you try spelling his first name right, and then i'll listen to what you have to say.

"A true friend stabs you in the front" - Oscar Wilde

[–] katiewon 18 years ago

It never made sense to me that Claus would inject his wife with drugs. Besides being hypoglycemic, alcoholic, and a pill popper (even if they were crushed and disguised in an eye dropper), Sunny was always pushing the envelope when it came to her health. Couple that with her moodiness and self pity, it was only a matter of time until something bad happened by her own hand. I think this is what finally did happen. She passed out in the bathroom where Claus found her. The black back that had been his, was taken by Sunny as her personal medicine bag. The kids would NEVER touch his things, but would know where their mother's belongings were. That's why they knew where to find it.

Alan Dershowitz was dead-on when he said that to allow the medical bag in as evidence is tantamount to having a private citizen doing warrantless searches on behalf of the police. Claus's step-children were no angels when they went after him with a vengence. I can understand and appreciate their anger and passion, but they were still wrong. It is up to the police and prosecutors to investigate crimes, not private citizens and their hired attorneys.

[–] kridge200 18 years ago

I agree that he did not kill Sunny. Because she's not dead. She remains comatose in Manhattan's New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where she has been since 1981.

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[–] virtueteen85 16 years ago

To tell the truth I'm not sure if he actually did it but the movie is good representation of how justice is blind when it comes to prosecuting the defense when the defense's rights has been wrongfully violated. You have your opinions you should fight for them. there is no problem with having an opinion of your own this is America.

[–] bradjanet 15 years ago

Sunny died today ...so NOW Claus did or didn't kill her. I think the worst crime was keeping the poor woman trapped in a coma for nearly 30 years.

But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.

[–] fanaticita 15 years ago

Exactly, that was the worst crime, and I agree with a previous poster -I think that Sunny did it to herself, but never ever could have known that it wouldn't kill her. That's the irony of the whole sorry story. She wanted to die, but instead she was in the worst state a person could possibly be in -a coma. Some who are in comas are aware of what is going on but are unable to respond in any way. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

[–] BodaciousBabe 15 years ago

Some of you need to pick up a book and read about the actual case instead of relying on this movie, which took liberties with the story.

First of all, Sunny was not a pill popper. Claus was the one on the Valium. Second of all, there was never any evidence that she was an alcoholic. Claus was a gold-digger with questionable background who was having an affair and wanted to get out of his marriage with his wife's money. He always lived way beyond his means and used the rich people around him. Also, her children found the bottles of insulin and other drugs in a bag that belonged to him. I am glad that he did not end up inheriting any of her money after what he did to her.

When the wind blows it's almost like I see her in the Hamptons...

[–] Gus-69 14 years ago

You sound a little biased against him...

[–] computerhater1 13 years ago

What everyone at this post seems to forget, the needle showed Insulin on the outside of the needle. NOT ON THE INSIDE. It would be just the oppisite if the Insulin was injected into Sunny because the skin would have whipped the Insulin off of the needle when removed, while some residue would have remained inside.
J.D.

[–] ophelia137 13 years ago

This board seems to have invoked some emotion! I think there are some valid points by the original poster, bodaciousbabe and you, computerhater1. I don't know what the heck happened but I think that this story had more to do with how the law works than the actual facts. I would like to read the book after reading bodaciousbabe's post. Great acting. Another hard one to watch. Such a tragic story. Oh! Did I spoil it? LOL.

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[–] prettyD2368 12 years ago

What book did you read Bodacious Babe? Cause this is what I have found about Sunny Von Bulow from Wikipedia.

"Other experts testified that the hypodermic needle tainted with insulin on the outside (but not inside) would have been dipped in insulin but not injected; injecting it in flesh would have wiped it clean. Evidence also showed that Sunny's hospital admission three weeks before the final coma showed she had ingested at least 73 aspirin tablets, a quantity that could only have been self-administered, and which indicated her state of mind".[5]

So that pretty much tells me she was a pill popper.

[–] deeveed 12 years ago

I don't know what the heck happened but I think that this story had more to do with how the law works than the actual facts.

After seeing this film recently I'd say yes let's check that out...the LAW. What's it really all about??? We certainly got an impression of how it works in that instance in Rhode Island. The LAW. Big big question.

[–] fast_cash 10 years ago

Based on what I read how Sonny had a drug problem and what was found in her system when she went into hospital, I think Klaus didn't do it.

I think this film shows how an innocent person's character can work against them when it comes to prosecuting the law. Klaus came across as aloof, distant and uncaring all through the film. Yet from what we can deduce from the subtly given information, this is not a simple open and shut case.