How Jay did not kill Tibbey?
How Jay did not kill Tibbey?
shareUltimately because Jay knew he (and Miryea) had done a greater wrong to Tibbey than what Tibbey did to Jay and Miryea. Until he had the opportunity, he thought he could take Tibbey's life. When the time came, he could not. Which makes the story even more poignant than it might have been.
shareI completely and totally disagree that infidelity is worse than Jay being beaten and left for dead and Miryea being slashed on the face, doped on heroin and sold into prostitution.
That is utterly vile.
Jay couldn't kill Tibbey because Tibbey had been his friend, and because Jay did not yet know what had been done to Miryea.
Does Tibbey forget his infidelity? I would have gone back and made Tibbey beg for his life and then cut his balls out.
shareHe spared Jays life by not killing him but just dumping his body, realizing that was as far as he needed to go to make his point, that showed me something about him. It was only fair and honorable that Jay admit what he did by taking his wife from him and for the most part had it coming to him. Jay seemed to understand Tibby's pain despite what he had to go thru. Why kill him when you started the whole thing by sleeping with his wife whom despite his affairs i believed he loved her. And was in as much Pain as Jay for what he had to do. He had no choice but to punish her for her lack of respect, sleeping with his friend and falling in love with another man right under his nose. If he had not done anything he would loose respect from his people and put himself in danger. The one thing that just did not make sense to me was they knew what kind of man he was and acted so disrespectful to a man that respect was everything to. She could have gotten away from him but my guess was they would have had to be on the run for the rest of there lives, They started something that would yield no good outcome and both were to smitten to think it through.
sharelamont, I agree! If he wanted to kill Jay he would have left him in the burning cabin. I also don't think he planned on his wife getting sick and dying in the whore house, awful enough punishment though. But i too believe he did love her.
shareA greater wrong? Tibbey and his thugs killed his dog! If somebody shotgunned my dog they had better be wearing a bulletproof vest. Also, it was Tibbey's actions that ultimately killed Miryea. In my story he goes back and kills Tibbey for the death of Miryea. I can't believe you think cheating on someone is a greater wrong than murdering a dog, attempted murder, and forced sex slavery and drug addiction that led to death. I don't find that poignant and was disappointed with the ending, but of course to each his own and hey, at least you enjoyed the film too.
shareI can understand your point and agree with some of it. But in judging what Tibby did one must realize who he was. He could not as any mafia/gangster let there affair go unpunished he would have never been respected by people that were worst than him. It's just how they were. The lovers were either stupid or so smitten that they crossed a no return boundary in his world. Any mobsters wife would never think of being so disrespectful in this manner. And Jay as all men knew you better show caution when you enter a man's world such as Tibby's. Jay in the end had to settle for i'm sorry I disrespected you for sleeping with your wife as Tibby had to admit He was sad of what he knew he had to do. There was no use of them killing each other. when they both were responsible for her outcome. Neither man won and that was the only ending that fit the movie. To me she even came to except she crossed a line and knew she would have to die, that's why she shared the drugs and did not care. We all felt sorry for her as we were supposed to but the film did not set out for that type of story, but in the end to show that respect the rules of the life they were in and with the rules comes no EXCEPTIONS. all three of them knew the rules.
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This movie got me upset on so many levels. While the adulterous acts were wrong, what Tibbey (Mafia boss or not) did was so much worse.
Granted I never read James Harrison's novel, but her dying in the end made all the searching a waste of time for me.
"RESPECTING ONE'S OPINION IS THE PINNACLE OF MATURITY"
Tibbey was a heartless thug who deserved much worse than what he did to his wife and Jay. Killing an innocent animal, blowing the brains out of somebody who didn't agree with him, even though he didn't pull the trigger, he ordered it done right in his own house. People who live by the sword deserve to die by the sword. No wonder his wife turned to Jay. Any woman would have. So Tibbey had mistresses all the time and that was ok? NOT. I'm not saying that her infidelity was right either, but she was young, wanted children, and he wouldn't let her hardly breathe without telling her to do so. Tibbey was a class A jerk.
shareThe movie is not about what Tibbey the wife or the lover did, no disrespect to you, but you missed the meaning of what it was about. Respecting the boundaries or facing the consequences. The wife and lover were way out of bounds for a man such as Tibby. The affair was not to go unpunished but fitting for a man like him. They never killed each other because the lover came to realize he was the wrong one he slept with Tibby's wife, Tibbey did what he knew to be the punishment for the crime. Tibbey was not so much angered by the lover who may have not in the beginning knew the rules but his wife did. There was no sense in killing each other as a man enticed by a beautiful is normal, but a woman disrespecting a man like Tibbey must be dealt with.
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No way does he want to kill Jay. He wanted them both to understand what they did and know and live with the consequences of there actions far worse than killing them. Jay has to live with what he had done, getting the love of his life killed in a very horrific way, that is a life long torture chamber. As she spiraled down she could only feel she got to love another man like no other only to not even know was he spared or to what degree was he tortured. That is honor in Tibby's world death was to easy.
shareAgreed! great points lamont-harden, GREAT FILM(original), that is! DC-YUK!!!!!!!
shareJay should've at least killed Tibby for murdering his dog.The poor thing had absolutely nothing to do with the affair!
You want to play the game, you'd better know the rules, love.
-Harry Callahan
Mark Wahlberg in the sniper movie SHOOTER gets revenge for the baddies killing his dog.
"You don't understand. They killed my dog."
I think KC's Cochran thought Tib would suffer more by living without Miryea than dying.
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