I'm pretty sure the exterior shots(the wall and the modified gate) are a real graveyard. Could be wrong though. The interiors and some of the exterior shots are pretty clearly sets, given the way they're shot.
....? Well then in answer to: "It's a real grave yard that actually exists. How is it "story bookesque?" I'm going to go ahead and say because it's not a real grave yard, and doesn't actually exist. It's a fanciful story-bookesque movie set take on a graveyard that may not or, it's incredibly unlikely did, incorporate a few elements from an actual graveyard that was nowhere near it's implausible supposed setting.
You put it in quotes. Parentheses are brackets.
But the way the line is delivered implies that they USED to go to the graveyard, not that miners are still coming to the graveyard to be buried. It's pretty clear that nobody gets buried there anymore. Miners or otherwise. Hence why it says "got buried" further along the quote.
But the point remains, the line should have been in the past tense. "Come" should have been "came."
See, I knew I could use them. I don't have even the slightest clue what point you're trying to make. I never called into question, nor do I see where someone would get the suggestion I was, that it was still in active use as a burial ground, and specifically did mention it being 'long fallen into ruin by the time of the movie'. As well I am not the screenwriter or actor, the line spoken in the move is 'come' not 'came' (and comes up when googled). It's really not that confusing or great a deviation from standard English, and was specifically mentioned as being a line from the movie and placed in quotes.
No. The movie takes place in Alberta. The book is another matter, but the movie clearly takes place in Alberta. They even refer to the fact a few times. For example right at the beginning of the film, Lori tells Boone they should get out of Calgary for a few days.
Decker refers to the murders all occurring with driving distance of Calgary. Inspector Joyce is introduced as being part of the Calgary PD. It definitely takes place in and around Calgary.
I also can't imagine what you think you're saying no to. We were specifically talking about Midian. You specifically said 'The story takes place around Calgary Alberta'. We know Midian and large portions of the movie do not take place within (at a minimum) hundreds of miles of Calgary. Alberta is approximately a quarter of a million square miles in size. The Calgary metropolitan area is not. Because outside of the Calgary metro Alberta is, at best, sparsely populated, and always has been this has direct bearing on how much Midian's location makes sense.
But yes, Athabasca is also mining country.
That's nice, and as well as having never supported a population that could possible have come close to supplying a fraction of the dead for Midian it features a quite humble below ground graveyard, and is a few hundred miles (450km) from Calgary. North of Athabasca is even further away.
Oh really?
Yes, elaborate graveyards are overwhelming to the point of exception built near to the family, friends, and communities of the deceased by long term residents with established resources (that is not settlers, prospectors, pioneers etc.)
So what are you saying? That the Nightbreed built the graveyard when Baphomet arrived? What seems more likely is that the graveyard is built on rock(considering it's in Alberta), which was harder to dig through than was worth, so mausoleums were built. Not unlike the reason there are so many mausoleums in New Orleans is because if you dig more than a couple feet down the hole quickly fills with water.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Indeed calling attention to N.O. only highlights that people get buried near their communities in a timely manner even if the location is far from ideal not 'come from all over' to get buried in a middle of nowhere that happens to also not be suitable for burial and requires far more resources.
Isn't as old as what, exactly? Are you again suggesting that Baphomet and the Nightbreed built the graveyard when they arrived?
...Well as the end of the sentence says 'as far as Western civilization is concerned' I'm not again suggesting the Nightbreed built Midian, nor did I mention them, my implication is clearly that Midian doesn't make sense in the context presented in the film as a cemetery built by people which as you originally asked is one of the things I find that doesn't make sense.
And "isn't that old" is a pretty relative term. They have been mining in Alberta for well over 100 years, and I'm pretty sure the Nightbreed haven't been in Midian for 100 plus years.
Un huh, and Nat Americans have been there thousands of years. Of course they wouldn't have built something like Midian anymore than are 'prospectors' from over a century ago would have. Speaking of which how many significant mining concerns really go back that far? And about how long have the nightbreed been there in your view?
Also I have established that the movie takes place in Alberta. There is no question anymore.
Actually, since Shere Neck like Midian are fictional locations and the directions are vague enough the movie could have also taken place largely in Saskatchewan.
What in the blue hell are you talking about? No battles during either world war occurred anywhere in Canada.
Correct. Hence the 'Even if by some freak chance I never head of a couple'. Along with Calgary's age i'm am noting that the kinds of events that create large graveyards in the middle of nowhere, that would be specifically: pandemics, large scale conflicts, and prolonged significant human inhabitation so as to see the rise and fall of communities are in fact absent from the larger, and for that matter specific region you mentioned (that would be Calgary). This lack contributes to the lack of sense of Midian's presence.
Your inability to believe it doesn't change the fact that it is there within the story and we have no reason to believe the entire thing was built by the Nightbreed.
I don't even know what point you could be trying to make here. No one in this thread, much less me, has ever questioned if it is fact that it is there within in the movie. Only how much sense that makes.
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