They should remake this movie.... - Nightbreed (1990) Discussion

[–] the_zookeeper 15 years ago

I love the movie just the way it is and would be sad to see a remake, unless that remake was a director's cut with the original missing twenty-five minutes that the movie company either refuses to give up or has lost and is afraid to admit.

Some things about the movie just can't be redone, especially the music score.

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[–] blackiechan77 15 years ago

Agree. I just think with all of the available visual effects and all, they could bring this movie into the light of a whole new audience. But a directors cut would be amazing as well.

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[–] SpiltPersonality 12 years ago

I love this movie, but it is one of the rare cases that I believe COULD be (not should be) re-done and make an improvement.

My rationale behind that is that it isn't such a popular movie that they would be trying to 'outdo' anything, or just 'cashing in'... it would be done by someone who wanted to show the story, and would possibly be able to do it better.

I think this is a very under-rated movie.

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[–] mikeflw1 9 years ago

The Blu-Ray rerelease included all, or nearly all of the footage that was cut from it in a weak attempt to transform it into a 'slasher flick' for better marketing.

The extra materials in the Blu-Ray release explain that...

With the restored footage, the movie is much better than the original theatrical release, IMO, and makes much better sense as you watch it. The special effects were pretty uneven, (varying from excellent to "cheesy") and within the context of the "slasher films", I suspect funding was probably reduced, resulting in the uneven quality through the film.
(You do know most films are NOT filmed in order, right?)

Check out the Blu-Ray version, if you can even find a copy...

To be fair, there is a certain reality involved in dealing with films that exceed two hours though. They are (were?) limited to three screenings a day, instead of the typical four, and that can easily cut into the money a movie makes, as well as discouraging audiences from choosing a 2 hour+ movie.

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[–] therefdotcom 8 years ago

just watched the dr sapirstein fan edit. 2 hours 13. mainly hd deleted scenes reinserted. it's pretty good.

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[–] argentobuff 15 years ago

I'd rather see the extended version that Fox is too lazy to care about before a remake.

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[–] srahfox 15 years ago

I'd have to say I'd hate a remake. Most of the time remakes seriously destroy what ever made the original interesting. The only way I'd be cool with a remake is if someone walked up to Barker, handed him a butt load of money and said... "Now do whatever you want". Then I'd watch it.

I agree some amazing things could be done with the technology we have now, but without Barker being a part of every last detail of it, it would just get screwed up. Think about all the tiny details in the background that you see for only half a moment, no one else would bother with that.

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[–] chrysalis_writter 15 years ago

Why, so it can suck like all the other remakes?

I say restore, keep the orginal. If the studios remade it now they'd only make it shorter, simpler and cheaper than the original theatrical release.

We should see the entire film, restored, before ording a crappy re-make.

I give you:
Texas Chainsaw
Halloween
Friday the 13th
13 Ghost
The Wicker Man
The Omen
Rosemaries Baby

All bad remakes.

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[–] jtrinc 15 years ago

Rosemaries Baby was remade? When? Who did it?
I liked the remake of Texas Chainsaw and The Omen. But yeah, most remakes aren't good. I would also include King Kong, The Fog and The Hitcher.

However, some remakes have been good:
The Fly
The Thing
Dawn of the Dead
The Ring
Amityville

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[–] TheEnigmaticRonin 15 years ago

guillerimo del toro should direct if they ever remake this, but no one can do a better Decker, Cronenberg was more than just awesome.

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[–] mrtommorris 15 years ago

Regarding Del Toro-he basically put his spin on Mydion(sp)in Hellboy 2 The Golden Army. I think his Troll Market was hugely influenced by Barker's Nightbreed.Personally I think a remake would kill the spirit of the original and unless someone wanted to give it a real budget and respect I 'd say leave it alone...

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[–] science_monkey_genius15 15 years ago

I think if they remake this movie they would ruin it. The original films are always better and then after they do remakes they always end up horrible. This is a really good movie that shouldn't be remade.

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[–] nessie117-1 15 years ago

I won't support a remake of this until I see the new 145 minute version (if it ever comes out).

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[–] sandifay62 14 years ago

Remakes never harm the original. They can't. If they're better than the original thy make more people want to see the original. If they're worse, they confirm why the original was great and the remake is forgotten.

No one can say whether a remake will fail until they've seen it and decided they don't like it. it they don't like it they just end up having more respect for the original.

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[–] mister_lev 14 years ago

I say give someone with clout, a budget and vision, with Mr. Barker consulting them every step of the way a chance to reboot an amazing idea with tons of potential. The original film was just the first chapter in what could have been a great trilogy of movies. Do that, AND re-release the original as it was intended.

I think the material deserves both.

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[–] laeyisoracle 12 years ago

Physically, no, but if the remake changes pop cultural perspective towards the original, it can. Add on to the fact that there are a lot of dimwits who only prefer to watch remakes because they are the most newer representations of the movie, and that anything a decade or older aren't worthy of their time.

Of course, the chances this would get a GOOD remake are slim. Now, more than ever, studios want to play it safe and want to reach out the largest demographic as possible. This means littering the flick with stupid pop culture references, pointless hot young stars, pointless sex, nudity, drug use and hip licensed music to appeal to the kiddies. Y'know, sellout central! They didn't go that far with the original, but what the studio did still managed to piss off Barker. Right now, IMO, it's a bad time for imagination. Nightbreed is highly imaginative. And while it was a flop originally, the time it came out, that sort of "style" was more acceptable. Now, we are in the ultra grounded, non-nonsense era of trend. Nobody wants magnificent fantasy. Though, who knows, maybe in the next decade, people will get sick of "grounded" fantasy and rebel against it(like generation tends to rebel against the ones before them). They might be clamoring for highly imaginative ideas. THAT would be a time to bring back Nightbreed.

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[–] lambert-20 15 years ago

Just my thoughts, but I don't think it should be remade.... but re-released, if they ever dig up the lost footage & put it back together for a "Director's Cut".

Personally, I think there was ever only 1 actor who could play Aaron Boone so perfectly &.... ditto for Peloquin. Any other actor couldn't cut the mustard for the parts, especially after reading the book, Cabal & the description of the characters.
Sheffer was perfect in the role as the tortured, handsome, rugged but sort of insane/ depressed hero. Oliver was a cool natural as Peloquin. Unfortunantly both actors are too old to play them again, now.

Also, I think anything remade will take away from Barker's original artistic intention for his film & monsters. It would probably be ruined by cheap CGI effects, instead of the hands on props, make-up, costumes & stop motion anamatronics, of its time.

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[–] tkpainc 14 years ago

"Personally, I think there was ever only 1 actor who could play Aaron Boone so perfectly &.... ditto for Peloquin."

My thoughts exactly, especially Peloquin. Oliver Parker rocked the show and then some.

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[–] TheSolarSailor 15 years ago

Well, one small correction...NIGHTBREED does need a director's cut so I wouldn't say it was "fine as is". There's so much more to the movie that we've yet to see thanks to studio interference. Agree?

A remake wouldn't be an objectionable idea to me, but it depends on who makes it. Clive brought a beautiful, surreal, artistic touch to this film with his personal involvement, as did Danny Elfman with his great musical score AND David Cronenberg with his chillingly calm portrayal of Decker. All of these factors most likely wouldn't come together in quite the same way again, so I think a remake would stand a high chance of disappointing.

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