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Are they ever innocent in these movies?

posted 12 years ago by BoSoxRule
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I mean come on.

I'm happiest...in the saddle.

Have to agree. And Homeland suffers from the same problem: if the guy wasn't really an undercover buddy of the middle-eastern terrorists then 1)we wouldn't get a tv series and 2)the story would ultimately turn against his wife, whom we are made to identify with, and against the CIA and intelligence community. Against "America", essentially.

You are a lunatic, Sir, and you're going to end up on the Russian front. I have a car waiting.

[–] BoSoxRule 12 years ago

Roger Ebert summed it up beautifully in his review:

"Consider for a moment the possibilities in this plot. Is it possible that the movie could end with the old man found innocent? No, it is not. There is no market for a movie about Nazi-hunters bringing false charges against the innocent. So the man must be guilty. Either that, or the plot must "really" be about something else - with the issue of guilt only a smoke screen."

I'm happiest...in the saddle.

[–] vicky_lc2001 (1907) 5 years ago

Yeah, from the get go you knew he was going to be guilty. They can't afford to make NAZI hunters look bad, lol.

[–] salimy3k 10 years ago

No chance of that ever happening - what? You want 'Hollyweird' (an industry run by 'semites') to acknowledge the fact that most of these 'Nazi hunting' schemes are nothing but protection rackets and shake-down scams run by Israeli gangsters targeted towards anyone critical of The Zionist power structure?!!!

[–] ib011f9545i 9 years ago

Well I assume that the vast majority of people in the world accept that the holocaust happened,there is plenty of evidence from interviews with victims and the people who carried it out and also sources such as train company records and blueprints of camps.

But there are issues about the value of evidence given by very old people who were very young when the events they are talking about happened.

There are also issues around how the cold war distorted the issues,with the SOVIET BLOC framing anti communists exiles as war criminals,but some of them were,likewise the west played down nazi crimes due to wanting support from the exile communities.

There is a scene in the film where people supporting the father are shown waving signs saying the holocaust never happened,it might be a good idea to drop such supporters if you do not support their views.

A recent book on this topic is HUNTING EVIL by GUY WALTERS which partly says that some in the anti nazi industry have little to be proud of but that does not mean that the holocaust never happened or that the motives of the people involved are easy for us to understand.