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SPoiler!---------Why did Tom blow off Leo at the end?


Tom made his play with Caspar, then squared things with Leo.....why the brush off at the end?

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I personally think that my interpretation of the end is what make's this film so brilliant. Tom had all of his rivals killed, then when Leo offered his job back, Tom refused, saying he didn't ask for it and didn't want it. When he says goodbye Leo, you (and Leo) at first expect Tom to walk off. Instead he stares him down letting him know that Tom wasn't working for anyone anymore he had taken over and that Leo's time was over, as he was the one to walk off in the end.I love the ending of this.

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I always thought that he brushed of Leo because Leo chose Verna over Tom. If Leo had listened to Tom in the beginning then the whole war could of been avoided. I think Tom had to jump through so many hoops to rescue Leo that in the end he was tired and fed up. Maybe Tom still had feelings for Verna too and he couldn't bear to see her and Leo married?

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Yeah, I just watched this and I think the "I'm going to marry Vern" (paraphrased) line at the end was the killer.

He'd just gone through hell for Leo and Leo just hasn't learned.
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He'd just gone through hell for Leo and Leo just hasn't learned.

This. Exactly this.

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Which I think is extremely selfish of Tom. Leo's been his employer and friend for a while, to just let a dame come between them is foolish. You need friends in this world, as Bernie put it so wonderfully, "you can never have too many."


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It's not entirely about Verna it's about what choosing her means. Leo didn't learn a thing about why he got into a war. Verna was nothing, but trouble and Leo still chose her even though To explained to him outright that that would *beep* him. He loves Leo that's why he went through so much to help him. But he wasn't about to go through it all again just because Leo was an idiot.

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I thought the ending as like a passing of the torch knd of moment. there's a new boss in town . tom has taken control of a bunch of territory and does not need anythng from leo anymore. He saved leo's ass and stayed their friendship but now he is mre powerful than him. He doesn't need a jod cause he's in charge now

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YES. A lot of people are overthinking the ending and the meaning of the final shots, etc. Tom simply was dicked over. We've maybe been there with friends, on either side, at one time or another. Leo KNOWS most everything Tom went through to save his ass - these guys are worse than kids in a schoolyard for gossip - and in the end has the gall to tell Tom that he "forgives" him. Tom saved the man's life ten times over.

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I agree completely.

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I agree with you, chrisasiama. Leo chose his feelings for a tramp over Tom's trusted advice, repeatedly. Tom still saved his ass, but lost respect for Leo in the end. He couldn't go back.

Verna....I still don't see that Tom had feelings for her. She loved him, but he just used her for sex.

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I agree. He didn't want to have to be near her---as Leo's wife.


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That's a nice interpretation. It certainly seems that way.

Casper and Dane are dead and Tom is the next in line to the throne, and Leo's organization has been weakened by war and Leo has been made to look like a old sap in that everyone knows Tom just took out Leo's rival singlehandedly without help.

Tom is now the new boss in town.

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But they don't know that because he took every precaution to pin the murder on Bernie.

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I freakin' love what you said. Tom stares down Leo until LEO cedes and walks away. Tom stood his ground in a subtle way, implying that no one should or will mess with him. Because he's freakin' Gabriel Byrne.

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Tom had in no way taken over. Leo still had his organization, and all the men were loyal to Leo, not Tom. And Tom explicitly told Verna that he did what he did in order to square things for Leo.

My take on it was that Leo and Tom were as close as brothers and had come up together in the struggle to make Leo the boss (they reference this, obliquely, in one of the opening scenes). But the brotherhood is damaged by betrayal. Tom realizes he has betrayed Leo in a sense by carrying on with Verna. He probably does it because he knows Verna doesn't love Leo, she's just making a cynical play, manipulating Leo to protect her brother. But Leo's feelings for Verna are real, as Tom knows. Tom might have kept clear of Verna had the feelings between Leo and Verna been mutual, but they aren't so he didn't. Still, he realizes Leo won't see it this way, or understand, so he feels he's betrayed his friend and brother.

And Tom feels betrayed by Leo to some degree also. After all, the relationship with Verna wasn't real, and Leo should have seen this. And after all the years they'd worked together and fought together and spilled blood together, Tom was no doubt hurt and resentful by the way Leo attacked him both physically, and publicly. After this, there could be no going back to the way things were.

But family is family, and the years they had fought together had made them brothers -- you don't always like or get along with family, but you still owe them and stand by them because they're family. So he did what he had to do to straighten things out and save his brother. But again there was no going back, after what had happened between them, especially with Leo now about to marry Verna, who would in a sense always stand between them, and who would be there to remind Tom of the betrayal (and no doubt, having come to hate Tom for causing her brother's death, she'd start trying to poison Leo against him). So there was nothing for him to do at that point but bow out and go his own way.

Leo's time wasn't over. Tom had actually managed to arrange it so that Leo wouldn't need him anymore. Leo had always relied on Tom's craftiness to help him stay ahead of his rival, but now the rival was gone, and his position was secure. It was the one last thing Tom did to help his brother before he departed.

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Great analysis!

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Out of everyone, I loved your post the best.




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One cannot be sleeping with their best friend's girl (behind his back) and then hope everything will be "ok" going forward in the future. Trust me. That would have always been between Leo & Tom and eventually someone would end up dead...

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I agree with atthev. Too much much had happened. And I think Tom was still in love with Verna. Also, I think he just had enough and wanted his independence from everyone.

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Tom was somewhat emotionally unbalanced. He wanted, and needed, all or nothing from Leo, like a jealous child craving a parent's attention. He refused to share him.

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Can one agree with both atthev & chrisasiama?

I think Tom is an intellectual figure in a violent, psychotic world and is coldly unsentimental. (He is often the victim of violence and when he does finally kill someone, it is for a purpose).


Leo's judgement has been blinded by his feelings for Verna (perceived as a weakness). The fact that Leo has forgiven Verna and wants to marry her shows that he hasn't learned. I also think Leo would be suspicious of Tom around Verna, but then there could be the issue of Verna herself. She too is a threat to Tom now and could easily influence Leo to kill Tom if necessary, especially if she ever figured out who killed her brother.

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My interpretation was that Tom wanted to start his own gang to rival Leo's. I think the precise way the ending was shot (the camera angles and the way the last shot zooms in on the close-up of Tom with his hat on his head and tipped over his face) verifies this for me, at least. In that last scene, Tom finally became the villan.

Killing Bernie by his own hand was the final "crossing" of the Tom character into .... that realm that would require him to be a killer, and now Leo's rival. There was no longer any dilemma for him, complicated by emotional attachments or loyalties. He knew that he had it within him to be the top guy. And just to show how easy it was for Tom to kill, to commit evil as if the act were meaningless to him, the directors show us how immediately after Tom kills Bernie, Tom makes a call, placing another bet- as if murder turned out to be nothing to him. Tom realized that he had no soul, and becoming the top leader in town was his logical next step.

The last look between Tom and Leo also was telling. They pause. Leo looks at first confused, then understands. Without saying a word, he walks away. Leo understood that from then on they would be enemies. Why would you just walk away from a brother, especially a brother that saved your life and position by wiping out the enemies? If Leo felt that Tom wanted out for any other reason, Leo would've at least made some gesture of affection (a touch of the shoulder with a look of gratitude on his face or "if you ever change your mind or forgive me, call me" ... or something of this sort. The way Leo walked away without saying or doing ANYTHING else (and notice how the camera reveals that he never looked back or hesitated as he was walking away) indicates to me that he knew what Tom wanted and what Tom would commit himself to being. From that moment forward, they would be rivals.

Tom has been chasing his hat. He finally has it. He genuine care for Leois supplanted by cold ambition. But he is finally fulfilling his destiny. Tom has been working the whole film to eliminate the competition, and now there's only one player left.

One of the most beautiful aspects about this film is that although on the surface it is about Tom's Machievellian rise to the top of the underworld food chain, it is also about his humanity (his love for Verna, his compassion for her brother, his genuine care and concern for Leo, whom you could argue he's been working for during 95% of this film, until the very end).

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Tom wants to start his own gang and go against Leo? What movie were you watching? Everything Tom did in the entire movie was to help keep Leo and his gang in power.

I don't think Tom ever wanted to be the number one guy. He seemed content to be the trusted advisor, the brains behind the brawn, the number two guy.

Someone else said it well - Leo's affection for Verna had caused all the problems, Tom saved Leo's ass, yet at the end there's Leo, announcing he's marrying Verna. Tom loves Leo but he cannot abide Leo's lovestruck stupidity anymore.

Tom, like his hat, is moving on. Given his history with Leo and Verna there's no way he can have any kind of relationship with either of them, and there's no way he'll stay and oppose Leo.

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Fantastic thread and wonderful analysis. Saw it again tonight for the umpteenth time and wanted to point out a bit of minutia that you refer to here. YOu ention that he coldly makes a bet after he kills Bernie. That may be, but after the blood bath in his hallway and the fact that he knew he may no longer have a sponsor he had to take care of himself. He placed a bet on the fight that Caspar had fixed, that Bernie had coerced Drop Johnson into betting on.
The money he made could ensure his independence.

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If anything it sounded like he wanted to get out of the game. He sure as hell didn't want to go against Leo nor did he want Verna back (specially since she didn't want to have anything with him at that point).




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I think the main reason is because of the depths that Tom had to go to save Leo. He went to a place that he had never really been before and didn't really like himself in the end. He felt he needed to be free of Leo at this point.

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Well, I'm duplicating what some of the folks above me have said, so I apologize.

I don't believe Tom is going to "take over" or make any kind of move against Leo. This would, in my view, be an incredible betrayal of Tom's character. He'd no sooner point a gun at Leo than chop off his own head. I'm frankly amazed that anyone would think that. It's certainly a novel interpretation.

Besides, Tom is clearly labour, not management. He would not be at home behind a desk.

I also don't believe that Tom has any serious feelings for Verna. Or, if he does, they are completely overshadowed by his love of Leo. I'm not talking about romantic love -- although one could argue this, I think -- just strong friendship and even stronger loyalty.

The look Tom gives as Leo walks away is one of despair. Tom's done everything he can for his best friend -- who wins the war and gets the girl, all thanks to Tom -- in effect, given up his happiness for Leo's.

Yet he can't work with him anymore. Their relationship is finished. Period.

It's just not the way a guy like Tom would play it. He has too much pride. It's almost unthinkable that he would go back to Leo after the break -- just like he wouldn't accept Leo paying off his debts. He would sooner die in a gutter than break with a friend/mentor under those circumstances, only to be welcomed back. Leo has lost face, and the depth of Tom's love has been laid bare.

Also, there's the whole Verna thing. But I don't think Leo would let something like that sour him on Tom. Especially given all that's happened.

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"I also don't believe that Tom has any serious feelings for Verna. Or, if he does, they are completely overshadowed by his love of Leo."

I agree with everything else you said, but I can't get behind this. If it were as simple as this, Tom wouldn't have been having sex with her. I think he does, or did, have some kind of feelings for her, but it was complicated by his (equally?) strong feelings for Leo. In the end, Verna turns on Tom because he wouldn't help her brother (and she may even be aware he actually killed him), which implies that's the only reason she was with him in the first place.

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If it were as simple as this, Tom wouldn't have been having sex with her.
Hmm. You may be right about Tom having feelings for Verna -- the film doesn't really confirm things one way or the other. However, I think a case could be made that he had sex with her to prove (both to himself and, if necessary, to Leo) that she'll do anything to protect her brother, even if it means betraying Leo. How else could he tell Leo with utter certainty that she's a manipulative tramp? That sounded more harsh than I meant it to sound.

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Leo's the mug over Verna; Tom's too clever and honest with himself to want a pretence with her. It's certainly a sign of Leo's declining power as a gangster but a sign ironically undercut, because Tom's mental universe is still sterile - sharing his life with someone will make him vulnerable. Leo doesn't care anymore because he's growing out of it, even if the means are as unpromising as Verna.

That's why he walks away.

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Hey there, I think Tom had "ascended" by the end of the movie: gone through insane life and death experiences, played everyone in the city against each other, learned the limits of his own humanity in terms of a murder that he simply could not do, but also learned that there are other types of murder he is very very comfortable with.

Meanwhile Leo is the exact same guy he is at the start of the movie. Basically unrepentant, can't see that he caused all this, and can't see that he'll cause it all to happen all over again given half a chance. In comparison to Tom he's dumb, short-sighted, and dangerous to be friends with or in business with.

Tom morally outgrew Leo and there's no room for friendship between them any more. What I think's amazing about this film is that he achieves this moral growth by becoming more dangerous, more devious, and more inhuman than he was before.

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My interpretation was that from the opening scene Tom wanted out, he planned on leaving and getting out. Likely he had wanted this since Leo stopped listening to Tom like in the opening scene, or possibly once things started to fall apart in the war. Another possible reason could be that Tom wanted to go start up his own gang, as he knew he was capable of more than being just the thinker behind the big boss.

When things started to fall apart as the war began that was Tom's chance to leave, infact running away would've been the sensible thing that many would've done and it wouldnt have been disloyal. I think it was probably only then that Tom really decided to leave. However, despite their quarrels Leo had done much for Tom and he was still the best freind he had. Tom's loyalty meant he couldnt just leave Leo in a big mess, he had to finish the job.

By killing off all the rivals and clearing things up, putting Leo back safely at the top Tom could leave without guilt or doubt over whether his freind is even still alive. Tom's killing bernie at the end, essentially shows him tying up all the loose ends.

The only thing I'm not sure about is where does Verna fit into this. Tom may have just been using Verna as a way to seperate himself from Leo, so that he could gain trust with the others and get to Bernie. However, I think it's more likely Tom actually did have some feelings for Verna, maybe he had hoped she would come with him. This fit's my theory as it explains why Tom went so far to sort things out for Leo, it was because he felt guilty taking Verna away from Leo. He wanted to make it up to him.

In answer to your initial question, my main point is that Tom doesnt just decide to brush off Leo at the end. I beleive it was a decision he made very early on, and was determined to see through despite the few things that might make him want to stay.

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