The doctor was an idiot


Right before they were let loose on the surface in the rafts, Ramius asked the doctor to ensure an accurate head count so no one of the crew was left behind. If the doctor had done this properly, then how was it the cook/saboteur was left on board?

Wouldn't a missing crew-member have warranted a search of the boat?

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He was never on the manifest to begin with which makes it more likely than he was a government agent going undercover to ensure the safety of the caterpillar drive.

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Was that revealed in the book? Because I don't remember that being the case in the movie. Either way; you'd think someone would say "Oh wait, where's the cook?"

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Never read the book, but it is revealed in the book that he is a GRU agent and if he is any good, blends into the scenery and keeps a low profile. If the doctor is the only person responsible for determining number of individuals, it would be easy to simply count number of individuals rather than name check.

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That just proves my point that the doctor was an idiot. Even by simply doing a head count; he, or someone else, would have realized they were missing a member of the crew. The cook was in the mess hall as the doctor witnessed Ramius removing the missile launch key; so it stands to reason that he (the doctor) saw him.

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"He was never on the manifest to begin with..."

"Was that revealed in the book..."


Virmortis is talking out his nethers. Yes Loganov was on the crew rosters. It would not and does not make any sense that he wasn't. Virmortis is just making sh!t up.

And no... he was not stupid or incompetent because he missed ONE man. a mistaken like that CAN happen in real life even to the most professional sailor (Which the Doc wasn't.)

A Typhoon class Sub has a compliment of about 150-160 sailors, most of them exiting topside through one of SEVERAL hatches, not just a single hatch. Add to the mix the fear of getting off the (so they thought) irradiated boat, the Americans, and the general hecticness of abandoning the sub... it would be very easy to miss a single person, especially when that person is deliberately trying to hide.






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OP is overthinking this.

And so are you.

A "fake" seaman with fake papers among the crew would be caught out in an instant as he is NOT a trained seaman.

He still has to function as a Seaman in his job. rather than inserting a fake seaman pretending to be a cook, you recruit a real seaman that is a cook.


He was not a fake anything, under cover. He was an actual crew member who was also a GRU agent trained to destroy the ship if it became necessary under certain circumstances, like preventing the ship from falling into enemy hands.





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In the book, he was counted in the head count, and then asked to go back inside to grab his radio.

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The movie sends the message he's a Soviet loyalist with prejudice against Americans

Now ask me how I really feel, I'm just here for the comments.

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Easy, the doctor did not do this properly.

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He might have noticed someone was missing, but then he was told the Captain was going to scuttle the boat and the rafts had to unlash so the sub could submerge. Presumably, some number of the crew were going to stay on board to drive the ship, because the Captain couldn't do it himself.

But how many were staying and who? The Doctor wasn't told, and there wasn't much he could do about it anyway.



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The latter option would be valid had Marko not told the doctor that he and the senior officers would be staying behind. I'm pretty the cook is not a senior officer

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