Batista?


Batista is portrayed as a blue eyed blond. In fact he was black. Andy Garcia (a cuban-american whose family fled the Castro regime) once shocked Sydney Pollock by telling him this fact.

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"Cubans roared with mirth over the movie Havana, staring Castro fan Robert Redford, and produced by Castro fan Sydney Pollock. Reviewers hailed it as "historically accurate." One scene shows Batista in a meeting with American gangsters. Batista has blonde hair and blue eyes just like Redford…. Hey, he was a Yankee capitalist lackey, right? So he must have looked like a Yankee capitalist.

"Batista was black?!" gasped a badly freaked Pollock at a Hollywood party shortly after the movie came out. He’d run into Andy Garcia who informed him, between guffaws.

In fact, a high proportion of Batista’s army was black and mulatto, especially the officer corps. Castro and Che murdered 600 of them without trial in the first three months of 1959. Even the New York Times admits it. Had these massacres taken place anyplace else, they’d be called lynchings and the United Nations, NAACP, etc., would raise holy hell. Imagine, in any other setting, a lily white regime (like Castro’s) lynching several hundred blacks, dumping them in mass graves, then getting a standing ovation by the Congressional Black Caucus, Jesse Jackson, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel and Hollywood!"

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Please allow me to suggest that the Internet Movie Database not be used as a political forum to promote a pro-private enterprise, anti-Communist agenda. What if I railed on and on that promoters of private enterprise were pro-Nazi, because Nazi Germany supported big corporations, and the Nazis hated Communists? I doubt you'd be pleased and you'd likely say: "What has this got to do with the movie??"

Precisely.

IMDB is a forum to discuss movies, not politics. Is it too much to ask to keep it thus? Perhaps you could, instead, debate how this apparent disparity in ethnic portrayals plays out in the characters as they evolve within the movie. Now 'that' would be appropriate on IMDB.

Thank you.

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"Cubans roared with mirth over the movie Havana, staring Castro fan Robert Redford, and produced by Castro fan Sydney Pollock. Reviewers hailed it as "historically accurate." One scene shows Batista in a meeting with American gangsters. Batista has blonde hair and blue eyes just like Redford…. Hey, he was a Yankee capitalist lackey, right? So he must have looked like a Yankee capitalist.

Why do you feel the above are Castro fans?

Anyway he was also white in CUBA and on THE UNTOUCHABLES


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Batista presided over a military, pro-Western dictatorship, Castro presides over a Communist anti-Western dictatorship. Both men represent authoritarianism, corruption and regimes that deny civil rights, particularly for homosexuals and women, and freedom of speech. Castro has the added shame of being a hypocrite who confiscated wealth from the landowners and yet hoards several millions himself. Why would any democratically-minded individual who lives outside Cuba seek to elevate either man other than out of misplaced single-minded pro-US or anti-US ideology? Neither dictator is a true supporter of freedom or the working man, although Castro has admittedly fooled many of his countrymen and women into believing he has their best interests at heart.

However, as loathsome as Batista was if as the OP and others state Pollack and Redford presented the man as blonde and blue-eyed that is very dishonest, and no doubt designed to vilify him even further amongst the liberal-left. It seems some on the liberal-left would have a hard time attacking a non-white dictator for fear of 'racism' never mind how despicable and oppressive that dictator's regime may be. Perhaps that explains the relative silence in the West over Robert Mugabe's 'land seizures' (naïve white liberal: "hey, if he's stealing land from white people, no matter how violently, he can't be all bad, right, even if he's also murdering black farmers too?"), as well as the West's hesitancy to stand up to extremist Islamic organisations like Boko Haram until it's too late.

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I doubt Batista was Black. Put it this way, Batista looks as Black as Garcia

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Type Fulgencio Batista into google images or yahoo images and see for yourself. He was a light-skinned Black man. It throws a wrench into the whole "rich white Cubans that Castro overthrew" myth.

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Black?
At most the guy had 10% Black Blood. At most maybe none.
How does that effect the rich. Batista was a flunkie for the rich who were mostly but not entirely White/lightest Cubans. Just mostly.

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Those who think Batista was black...Enthnography flunkies!
Batista was Native Cuban, as in, Caribbean Indian. The Caribbean was was full of them until they got over-run. That is Batista's enthnicity. He probably had some Spaniard mixed in somewhere hence his shade but his features are all Native. If you can't tell the differance between someone who's black and something else...
If A. Garcia called him black, he's not being truthful. That story doesn't ring true at all, though. Sydney Pollack knows a lot about Cuba on his own and would hardly be clueless at a party over something so basic...Unless...he was acting.
Batista's wife was white and died recently in S. Florida.

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Batista black? well, to the eyes of a white suprematist maybe. To me he just looks latino with some mixed origins. So if you are 100% white, you are white, and if you're 99% white and 1% black, you're black. Interesting way of defining "racial" boundaries.
Although it seems grotesque to have portraied Batista as blond with blues eyes in this movie, the executions that followed the overthrow of his regime were in no way "racist" executions. And i'm not justifying them at all. I also remind you that in that historical period, the international standard of a racist regime were the U.S.
Also, if Batista's dictatorship was so popular among black cubans, why most cubans in exile in the U.S. are seemingly white?

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all you commies need to read up on your history. Your beloved Che was a white Argentinian of Irish and Basque(Spanish) descent who was a known biggot, against blacks and mulattos, (a large Cuban population) and slaughtered many of them ruthlessly.

You white Americans paint a broad stroke over latin Americans, labeling them as just 'brown', when in fact latinos are black, white, and/or native american. Just because Batista was not 100% white, or native american, or black does not make him any lesser of the three.

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Fulgencio Batista was a mulato, mixed race person. he was sufficiently African to have him banned from an elite all white/Spanish club in Cuba.

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Your beloved Che was a white Argentinian of Irish and Basque(Spanish) descent who was a known biggot, against blacks and mulattos, (a large Cuban population) and slaughtered many of them ruthlessly.


Except that he attacked racism in almost all of his writings. Claims that he was a bigot against black people stems from the fact that he didn't think highly of most of the African resistance fighters in Angola; because he thought them incompetent not because they were black. You should study history more honestly.


(a large Cuban population) and slaughtered many of them ruthlessly.


You are probably referring to the summary executions of Batista officers, many of whom, but not all were black. These people brutalized Cuba and were killed on those charges, not because they were black (they were not all black so saying they were killed because they were black is bad logic) whether Guevara's actions were right or wrong.





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Was he really portayed as a blond ? I must have missed that scene. At the New Year's Eve party there is a large painting which looks like Batista as he was. Most reports that I have seen refer to him as mulatto or mixed race. Apparantly he was sufficiently non-white not to be allowed to join the exclusive Havana beach club.

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Excuse me, but exactly where in this film is Batista portrayed at all? As I recall, all we see is a portrait at the New Year's Eve party, and he certainly doesn't look blond or blue-eyed there.

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