So as a ghost, Sam was directly involved in the deaths of Willy and Carl. It may not have been straight up murder, but definitely manslaughter-esque.
It brings up the question that if he wanted to, he could go on a murdering rampage from beyond the grave...just go into people's houses and leave the gas on. Yet he was welcomed Into heaven, like some sort of avenging hero.
It was the only way he could stop them from hurting Molly and Oda Mae. Since he couldn't talk to them and work it out, there wasn't anything else that he could do. He didn't just kill them for the sake of killing them. He certainly wasn't going after random, innocent people and attacking them.
He wasn't even trying to kill them. He was trying to scare them and make them back off. Willy went mad and ran into traffic. Carl kept fighting Sam.
By scaring Carl he ironically pushed him to behave more irrationally and violently.
If Sam had backed off rather than tried tormenting and teasing Carl, he might not have placed Oda Mae and Molly in such a vulnerable position to begin with.
What did Sam expect to happen? And he could take to Whoopi. I know it's a film etc, but ghosts being able to make that much physical contact is stupid. Like when he learning the skill, the ghost showing him the techniques constantly reminds him he is dead and his body is no more..them says push it all down into your stomach??
shareWith Oda Mae 's criminal record, why would the police listen to her? It was because of her record that they wouldn't listen to Molly when SHE went to them. Sam really had no other option. Willy and Carl are not defenseless little victims. If they hadn't been trying to hurt Molly and Oda Mae, Sam would not have done it.
shareBut if Oda Mae went to the Police and reported Willie the the Police would of had to act.
Could you imagine if all ghosts could avenge their deaths in some fashion? There would be no need for a justice system.
I do enjoy this film and I know it is 26 years old, but I recently watched it on Netflix for the first time in a decade and couldn't help but pick it a part.
Molly TRIED to report Willy, but, the police wouldn't listen,because of Oda Mae. Why would they listen to her now?
shareI am watching Ghost right now. Carl, himself, swung the hook that broke the window. Sam didn't even realize that it was going to hit the window until it was too late to stop it. He didn't want it to happen. Just look at his expression. It wasn't his fault.
All that happened while they were waiting for the police.
Sam terrorized Willie to keep him from harming Oda Mae. Sam punched Carl in the face in the kitchen because Carl turned on the stove and threatened Sam's ghost he'd set the place on fire. Also, when Carl pointed a gun at Molly's head, Sam threw it out of his hand, and yes, he punched Carl in the face (hey, the man responsible for your death just pointed a gun at your woman's head) and didn't want him to get away. Sam tried to stop that swinging hook from hitting the window that came down on Carl, but it was too late.
Exactly! How did any of this become Sam's fault? Sam was just a decent guy who was trying to live his life when Carl, his supposed best friend, sent a mugger after him in order to cover his own hide!
shareSeriously people who think Sam is at fault for their deaths clearly didn't watch the movie It was pretty clear that Sam was better than that. Besides if he wanted to kill them he could have easily done Carl at the bank or Willy at his apartment.
shareAre you fcking kidding??
Sam didnt murder anyone. Yes, he was haunting Willy and Carl but he never planned to kill them..
I agree.
Yes, what was done to Sam was terrible and he had every right to be angry with Willy and Carl, however, as you say, he went overboard in enacting his revenge. At times it didn't feel that he was simply trying to protect Molly. In fact, until Sam started pushing Carl around and tormenting him, Carl was completely set against doing any harm to her, although I'm curious as to what might have happened had Carl got his wish and ended up dating Molly. Would the mob have gone after Molly as revenge for Carl losing all their money? Or would Carl have eventually snapped and purposefully hurt Molly himself if their 'relationship' didn't end up going the way he wanted?
Still, I can't help thinking that it was Sam's actions that finally pushed Carl to behave in such an unhinged manner and thus strike out at both Molly and Oda Mae. And like you say, he also scared Willy to death (although that might have been somewhat more forgivable since Willy had already indicated that he was fully prepared to kill Molly).
For Willie yes but for Carl no. I wonder how those demons from hell decide what is murder and what isn't? :)
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