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Any 60s Commune Hippies Out There See This Movie?


I actually have a nephew named BlueSky and his mother was with the New Buffalo Commune and the Hog Farmers in Arroyo Hondo, NM, circa 1966-1969. She STILL lives there much like Carol Kane did in this movie. She is, like the movie, one of the last Hippy Commune survivors in the area.

When she was with the Hog Farmers, she actually rode the Road-Hog bus "Further" to Woodstock... I have pictures! I think the references to the character Huey Walker may be a reference to the late Ken Kesey (creator of the Merry Pranksters), who retired to a farm in Oregon... sorta. Kesey authored the book/movie "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and "Once A Great Notion", not to mention his others works...

At any rate, I was blown away by some of these historical references, and wondered if anyone else noted them. Anyone out there hear a few bells ringing in memory here? Hehehe...

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Thanks for the comment, uther8. Aside from the drugs, sex, and rock and roll (hehehe), do you really see similarities between a 60s English Commune and a 60s American Commune? Some would say (like my sister) that the American Communes were dedicated "counter-cultures" and quite "Anti-American", in a sense (anti-establishment).

Others would say that the entire "Hippy thing" was purely American, and nothing but American. After all, we didn't have the "British Invasion" and the Beatles until much later in the 60s... that kinda drove out all the Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul and Mary types... forever. Folk singing went down the drain with yeah, yeah, yeah, and I wanna hold your hand....

Yeah, those were the days alright... of riots, and beatings, and lynchings, and racial hatred, and the KKK, and the draft and war, and death on our city streets as well as in the jungles of Viet Nam.... some kinda fun.

Lucky for you, you were there... not here.

I think that those who can't remember the 60s, didn't learn anything.

Ta!

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The problems today are just as large: with Pandemic Influenza, AIDS, Global Warming, Terrorism on a worldwide scale, War in Irag and Lebanon, Gang Violence, and so forth. What I DON'T see are any organized efforts or movements to combat any of it (from the people).

The 60s represented a spontaneous response to just such a set of problems... however confusing the messages may have been, they were still ACTIVE voices, rather than passive. That is part of what the Movie "Flashback" is trying to say... that involvement and activism are GOOD things, and should NEVER die.

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You don't see as many protests today because we all ive in our own little bubble...reality as we see it. On one hand, it's a horrible, ignorant existence. On the other hand, it's free-thinking at its best. The scary part, though, is that all the things that enable us to create our own little world can be taken away in a heartbeat. That's why people need to wake up.

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...uh... so why did the hippie communes fail? If they were so great, shouldn't there be thousands of them across the nation, with hundreds of people in each one?



Government is like fire- a dangerous servant and a fearful master

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they didn't fail! they are just lazy.

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I'm not an old hippy, but I just want to stick my oar in here to say that activism is far from dead. Quite apart from the Iraq war protests which here in the UK at least were the largest street demonstrations in history, there is a constant stream of anti-capitalist and environmentalist protest going on.

Personally I think the problem is that the activism is not political enough, in that the question of political power is not thought through - we really need to figure out what we are for not just what we're against.

In reality most people in the 60's were pretty conventional (see Easy Rider for a pretty accurate depiction of what Middle America made of Hippy); the counterculture was a minority interest then as now. I think where the 60's was different is that the counterculture was a new thing then, and people really thought they could overturn the establishment, instead of being kind of absorbed into it. (Dennis Hopper is now a Republican).


I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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