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Like several B-action movies sewn together...


You can tune into this movie at practically any point and it'll seem like some leftover Steven Seagal scene...shoot-out in a baggage area...shoot-out in a church...argument in a control tower...fight on a plane wing...

The first Die Hard had such a streamlined journey with just John, the building, and the terrorists. This one it's like he's running around trying make sense of a schizophrenic plot.

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This one it's like he's running around trying make sense of a schizophrenic plot.


That pretty much sums up the third Die Hard as well.

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I would say this one is like several A-action films sewn together (because I think this film kicks ass), but whatever.

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Wait a minute... who am I here?

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Damn, the third movie is like one long chase scene. It just gets so old after a while.

Acting like you some one-man GPS

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Being a huge fan of the first film, I recall feeling underwhelmed by DIE HARD 2 in the theater, feeling it was a shameless rehash of its predecessor with a comparatively sloppy plot. However, I found the Blu-Ray used for $3 last week and watched it last night. To my surprise I enjoyed it tremendously. Not only is it one of the most aesthetically impressive action films I've seen (and I've seen most of them), but I came away thinking that the elements recycled from the first film were more of a tribute than a rip-off; it's clear to me that everyone involved, from the writer on up, are big admirers of the original and were, in a sense, saluting it. The sequel has its problems, and isn't quite the genre masterwork that DIE HARD was, but it's definitely what I would regard as a worthy sequel and one of the very best action movies of the '90s. It's also director Renny Harlin's magnum opus, for what that's worth, and it also deserves to be cited as one of the most jarringly gory action efforts in movie history, which is a trait that I admire greatly about it (action and gore should go hand in hand). I say forgive it's warts and appreciate it for what it is: Something of an action classic.

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did you have a head injury between watching die harder in the theater and watching it for a second a time?

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Look, I recognize the film's shortcomings, which are many, but unlike you I also see it's attributes, which are also many. Personally, I'll focus on its strengths because Hollywood simply doesn't serve up gory action movies of this type anymore. I miss the foul-mouthed, cigarette-smoking protagonist so, so much. Therein lies my near-adoradion of this admittedly flawed testosterone rush.

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i don't think the shortcomings are as many as you seem to think, but i don't see any attributes, hollywood not making a movie like this any more, even if it's true, is not an attribute

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That's probably because you're not a cigarette-smoking, foul-mouthed, violence prone type.

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did you see the hateful eight? i'm a tarantino fan, and i smoke hubbly bubbly

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Well, DIE HARD 2 is no HATEFUL EIGHT, that's for sure. Too bad QT is the only one still serving up the goods.

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Good call on the action plus gore aspect. Cliffhanger and Total Recall also deliver this winning combo.

Olympus Has Fallen was a decent recent effort, but its sequels were far worse and less gory. Someone needs to bring back the R-rated actioner and do it properly with an intelligent script, like the original Die Hard.

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