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Notice the diner being installed


In the scene where Michael is being driven away from the warehouse fire, he looks out the back window of the car and sees a diner being put in place by a crane. Isn't this the diner from Diner? I always heard that Diner, Tin Men and Avalon were connected (sort of an autobiographical trilogy) and always thought the diner shot in Avalon was a nod to the first film in the "series".

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Actually, I think it was when they were driving away from the big fight at the "family circle" meeting, when Sam resigned.

But, in any event, I think you're right that it's probably an intentional reference to Diner, and Michael -- if not absolutely literally, at least figuratively -- later becomes one of the young guys who hang out at the diner in that movie.

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"Michael" is based on Barry Levinson's life.

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Not sure if you saw Liberty Heights, but the diner also has a role in that movie.

And yes, in a magazine interview writer/direcotr Barry Levinson once called Diner, Tin Men, and Avalon "my Baltimore trilogy." (This was before he made Liberty Heights.

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I thought that was a streetcar being pulled from the tracks....taken out of service.

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definitely a nod to DINER, the film

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I noticed that too, and in the movie "Diner" there is something on the menu called "The Avalon", I believe it's mentioned in the scene where that man is eating all the sandwiches.

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I think it denoted the young lad's dawning awareness that things change and that not everything lasts. The diner was a retired streetcar that would never roll again. Since streetcars and streetcar talk figures prominently throughout 'Avalon', the boy is slowly realizing he is witnessing something profound - the passage of time, and indeed the beginning of change in the old home neighborhood as well. That's my interpretation of the diner scene.

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Two things to keep in mind: the real diner - which the movie was based on - was located in what was then a Jewish section of Baltimore - simply referred to as "Northwest Baltimore" - it was located on Reisterstown Road and was no where near the Avalon section where the early part of the move took place (referred to as 'lower Park heights'.

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Yes, you saw right: the diner was being placed in that scene and young Michael watched it being put on the foundation. It meant that he'll be spending a lot of time there when he becomes a teenager! Diner was first, then Avalon, and finally was Tin Men. That was the Baltimore Trio.

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In 1999, the trilogy became a quartet with Liberty Heights. For more information, see the thread on this board entitled "Levinson's Baltimore Quartet".


Way back there a reflection of me - turned my head in a circle of time
I thought life was for living - I thought life was a high time
I thought life was a fire - I thought life was a symbol.....

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