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Stopped being funny a long time ago. Anyone agree?


Hello everyone. Sad to say it, but I think this programme is long past it's best. I find the notion of being a "professional satirist" rather a bad one anyway - isn't setting out to find things to complain about rather perverse, aswell as leading to an attitude of cynicism (which I DESPARATELY HOPE our culture rids itself of soon)?
Paul Merton, although lovely, isn't half as funny as he used to be and seems to be doing it on autopilot these days.

Am I just getting older, or is the programme really less funny than it used to be?

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I think the last series got a bit stuck because every episode was dominated by the same story - the MPs expenses. There were only so many jokes to be had.
I still enjoyed some good episodes this series. It may not be what it was, but it is better than all the other shows like it!

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I think having a flick through some of the other threads on this board will show you that you're by no means alone (although you will found some supporters too.) Personally I think the decline can probably be traced to when the show moved to BBC1 (2000?), becoming officially "mainstream", but there's no question it took a huge nosedive when Angus left, & the show became about the presenter rather than the news.

Fortunately most old episodes are available online, and doing a quick comparison between them & current episodes should convince you that this is not the show it was.

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It depends really on two things: the presenter and the guests.

For example, with the likes of Alexander Armstrong and Jack Dee an episode is usually going to be raised to a certain level (or the silly episodes, with Bruce Forsythe or Boris Johnson), but when they have someone like Anne Widdecombe, Charlotte Church or Gordon Ramsey it takes a hit.

Also, when they have a supposed comedian as a guerst who isn't funny (i.e. Sarah Millican) or a guest who doesn't contribute (i.e. Alex James), it's also going to be affected.

I agree on Paul Merton phoning it in a lot of the time, though.

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Truth be told, the show maintained a high standard for an awfully long time -- I don't think it stopped being funny a long time ago, but rather gradually lost its flair over the last few series. I credit the tension shared between Hislop, Merton and Angus with the reason for its initial longevity. Indeed it improved up until and even after Angus' sacking, with the burst of novelty from the Bruce Forsythe, Boris Johnson, etc. episodes being great in a different (perhaps less edgy) way. I actually really enjoyed the second Anne Widdecombe episode a couple series back. And the Brian Blessed one of course.

But I think having the same format for so long has eventually led to complacency. Hislop and Merton have maybe run out of things to say after almost 20 years, much as I am endeared to both of them. Still, I always watch the show, I'm still amused by it to some degree or another, and I honestly wouldn't want it to end just yet, if only because it's become such an institution.

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I agree with a lot of what you say. Angus was great as host, and the chemistry between him, Hislop, and Paul made up a lot of the show's humour(even though Paul hated him).

Some of the guest presenters have been good, but now the novelty is wearing a bit thin. I think the radio show I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue will find the changing host format fizzles out after a while. I did think the Boris and Brian Blessed episodes were hilarious!!!

I also agree that a lot of Paul performances have been phoned in lately!

I still watch and like the show, but I get the feeling that it is coming to the end of its run.


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I agree with the cheesey guy.It all depends who's in the chair and who are the guests. I still watch from time to time but still miss Angus. I liked him.

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It's still good, just nowhere near the level it was. I wish Armstrong or Anderson would take over the chair, they're probably the most consistently funny. I totally agree with the OP about Merton, all he has to do is say something off the wall, and he'll get cheap laughs. I still think Hislop hasn't changed though. I still like it, it makes me laugh even after 20 years, something I can't say for the Simpsons.

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To an extent, the show is a victim of its own success. What was once cult and controversial has become mainstream and expected. Hislop, who never cared what anyone thought about him or his views, is no less vocal about them today, but he's become part of the establishment and we all know what to expect from him. Merton, who for reasons for comedy, was putting on a performance in the first place, has given it for so long, he doesn't have to try anymore. No one is to blame - they've all been very good at what they do and inevitably, that becomes the problem in a long-running series.

The show did also need good chemistry between its regulars (and by good, I don't mean they had to like each other), and Deayton, despite what Merton liked to say, did far more than simply read the autocue. The show did lose something when he was kicked off. But at the same time, the rotating guest presenters was probably a shot in the arm - especially when it worked well and the episodes with people like Boris Johnson, Bruce Forsyth and Brian Blessed to name a few are just as good as anything during the Angus years. Speaking personally, I don't think I've ever laughed harder than I did when Forsyth was on.

I really do still enjoy the show though, but maybe it's time for another format change - get a permanent presenter in and start building that dynamic we used to have. Ok, it won't be like it was with Angus, but if they choose the right person, it'll be good in its own way and maybe force Merton to start trying again. The question is who, of course. I like Alexander Armstrong a lot, but let's face it - they like him, and the sparks don't fly.

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I don't know about a permanant presenter, but I'd love to see Simon Amstell give a go at guest presenting. I know he has little politics background, but he was so good for Buzzcocks, and I'm sure Merton would hate him. He's abrasive comedy could suit the chemistry.

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Yeah, I'd get behind that choice just to see what would happen. In that vein, I'd be interested to see Mark Lamarr give it a shot as well.

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simply no! i love it. its easily in my top 5 favorite tv shows of all time.

angus was good, so dry - but life moves on. Variety is the spice of life. I have to admit though they do sometimes have some lame presenters. I think they should have 1 top quality person who can do it every week like angus but have a "special" non lame guest presenter once or twice a month but only if they can get someone interesting rather than some of the boot fillers we've seen

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Agreed. In fact, this last series I'm starting to feel embarrassed for them.

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It's been a disappointing series because of some poor choices of presenters and guests. I think it's still one of the better comedies on TV though.

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I think it's still one of the better comedies on TV though.
Exactly.

I really miss Deayton's dry humour. For me, nobody can ever replace him but if there's got to be a permanent host I'd like to see Richard Osman have a go at it. (Really loved his guest appearance on HIGNFY.) Someone mentioned Mark Lamarr which at first seemed like an odd choice but why not? I know everyone wants Armstrong to do it but I find him very boring.




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That last series (autumn 2012) was absolute rubbish. More like "Have I Got EU Views For You". For the first time in this show's history I felt like I was watching a programme which was not about satire, more about pro-Europe propaganda disguised as satire. If they're no longer allowed to attack targets and issues concerning the public then it's no longer a satire show, just a lot of celebrities and politicians congratulating each other.

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Yes, it's all got predictable. They're quite obviously fawning to the EU and every week it's just the same old "UKIP are nazis", "anyone who doesn't love the EU is a racist". It's like Kenneth Clarke or Polly Toynbee are writing the jokes.

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After Brexit hate crime rose, so I think they were merely reflecting reality...

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