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Just saw the movie. Have a theory...


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Just saw the movie and have read the board to see what others think. Most posts think the main character was schizo with delusions.

From watching the movie I felt his delusions were brought on from Rabies. I think he receives the bite from the Bat and never has it treated.

Read about Rabies symptoms here...
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Rabies/Pages/Symptoms.aspx

"A bite closer to the head (like the neck!) will have a shorter incubation time."

I think he really did meet Rachel at a diner and took her back to his place and they end up in bed. The bat shows up and she leaves, he gets bitten and has delusions that Rachel is still there.

Thoughts?

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I agree it could easily have been rabies. Very good theory that you came up with, it makes sense of the film.

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Thanks for the explanation,because I was about to put a wooden stake in my heart for actually watching the entire movie. Now, the movie makes sense. Well,it wasn't a total loss. Jennifer Beale's 2 nude breast should warrant the movie at least 2 stars.

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Uh ... sorry to spoil your party, but those breasts didn't belong to Jennifer Beals; they belonged to Kasi Lemmons. Miss Lemmons (who's now a very well-respected film director) portrays the first woman Peter beds -- well, tries to bed in a terrifying episode of coitus interruptus, due to a vampire bat. Remember the very beginning, when they're at the bar, when all those people are at the bar, and the band ESG is jamming on their club/disco song "Moody": "Very moody, baaabaaay," the lead vocalist sings. Get it: "Moody"? That song playing in the background when Peter picks up Miss Lemmons' character (can't recall her name) at the bar, sets up the tone and atmosphere of the entire movie. ...


Just to comment on the theory that is the subject of the OP: I love that idea about rabies explaining the delusions. I also believe, now, therefore, that Rachel-as-vampire was part of that delusion, just as near the end of the movie, it's totallly surreal that the filmmaker pairs Peter with the undead version of the woman he fatally bit at the club. (I'm talking, here, about the scene in the therapist's office, where the therapist introduces Peter to another delusional patient.) But, really, Peter does end up being a vampire -- literally and figuratively. VAMPIRE'S KISS is one hip, surreal movie. You've got to open your mind to really dig it. I love Nick Cage's early, offbeat work, so I dig this movie very much!

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actually the rabies thing makes more sense than schizophrenia



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Perhaps Nick should've returned to doing more of those off-beat roles. I'm talking about doing the occasional blockbuster instead of striving for the No. 1 or No. 2 action-adventure slot. That's a hard slot to stay at unless you've got the looks in addition to the acting gusto. I'm thinking Bruce Willis, Pierce Brosnan, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Daniel Craig, etc. Those tough guys have the kinds of faces that remain hard, no matter how much they age. Hell, I was willing to keep watching Sean Connery swing ropes from one hazard to another if he hadn't retired. But the difference between Nicholas Cage and all those actors I mentioned is that, with the exception of perhaps Brosnan, they can't pull off the hipness that Cage did in his early films.

As always, I tend to get off-topic, so please forgive me, here. ... Bruce Willis tried to go the hip route early in his career. After all, he personified ultra-hipness in the '80s hit series "Moonlighting." He and co-star Cybill Shepherd lighted up the small screen as stylin' private eyes of Blue Moon Investigations agency: the irrespressible "David Addison" and the sassy "'Maddie' Hayes." The consummation of their sizzling pairing, which happened later in the series, was one of the most-watched prime-time episodes of the 1980s. And Al Jarreau's singing the theme song -- a breezy, jazzy number -- made the anticipation of the opening credits absolutely scintillating. (The "Moonlighting" theme song became a hit, just as Mike Post's theme song to the precinct-focused police drama "Hill Street Blues" had been at the beginning of that awesome decade.)

For those of you IMDb users who are too young to recall the beginning of Bruce Willis' career, his role in "Moonlighting" made him a household name, and it wasn't long before his movie career was launched. This was the 1980s. The late 1960s and all of the 1970s had brought sexy to the forefront with full-frontal nudity, but the 1980s brought sexy back in a classy, haute couture mode -- think "DRESSED TO KILL" and "AMERICAN GIGOLO," two films that were released in 1980, as well as "9 1/ WEEKS," "FLASHDANCE," "DIRTY DANCING," "VAMPIRE'S KISS" and "BATMAN"." On the small screen, how can we forget "Miami Vice," "Remington Steele" (yup -- that was Pierce Brosnan in the role of a fictitious-within-fiction character) and "Dynasty"?"

For all the sexual frankness that was de rigueur on the big screen by the mid-1980s, it was still controversial in "Moonlighting" to see the consummation of attraction between "David" and "Maddie." The sudden transition was complete with a cleared-away coffeetable and the cymbals-clashing, heart-thumping beat of The Ronettes' "Be My Baby." In fact, whenever I view NBC-TV's "Chuck," and I watch the sexy banter and body language between the title character and his co-spy, "Sarah," I think of Willis and Shepherd as "David" and "Maddie." Ironically, after "David" and "Maddie" did the chicken wing, the "Moonlighting" began losing its popularity; although, the other reasons, besides loss of sexual tension, could've been Shepherd's real-life growing family (she conceived twins, not from Willis, of course) and Willis' attention to filming DIE HARD.

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I really enjoy reading your introspective reflections and polite comments in response to the views of other contributors, ange. How come you haven't posted in such a long time? Yours are type of entries that make it worthwhile to explore into the views of sensitive and intelligent individuals.

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Yes, I concur. It's as if now when we see Nick in his movies, he's a bad spoof of himself. It's like watching him in his final stages of vampirism in VAMPIRE'S KISS, where he's nearly totally drained of life. Damn, talk about art imitating art.

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Totally agree with you

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I mean no offence, but apart from the fallibility of basing your "theory" on the idea that Hollywood decide to make a film about the effects of rabies, trying to work out a logical reason why the character thinks he's a vampire is like watching 'American Psycho' and looking for clues as to whether or not Bateman imagined all his murders.

Or to put it another way, you'd be better asking yourself why the writer chose to make the character live alone, be unmarried, repeatedly speak with an English accent, regularly see a psychiatrist, work in literature, etc, because it would help you to focus on deeper meanings.

It's obviously a surreal, slightly Kafka-esque and extremely absurdist film. If it's about anything, it's more likely to be about this particular quintessential 80s character type (e.g. no friends, a high-status job and desperately seeking love) than a man who was bitten by a bat.

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The bat never bit him in any case so I concur with the last post and would add the following:

I think the bat scene actually happened and planted the vampire idea in his head. In a following scene we see him look out the window at Rachel whom he recognises from high school (as we find out after his confrontation with the real Rachel at the end). The combination of the bat and seeing Rachel (whom he must have previously been obsessed with) bring about the vampire fantasy. All scenes with Rachel are fantasy except the last one when he gets kicked out of the club.

Why does he pick on Alva?
First of all, she's a woman and he's got woman issues. Secondly, she's weak. As he says she's "bottom of the totem". Cage's character is a coward as shown by how he acts when he's spotted in the ladies' bathroom and how he over-laughs at all his fellow executives jokes. Cowards pick on the weak.

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I agree with the last two posts. Very insightful stuff, and it makes me want to see the movie again. We just watched it last night for the first time and were fascinated by Nic Cage's performance. This is truly his greatest role. The Alphabet scene alone deserves an Oscar nod.

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YES, the alphabet scene. One of the greatest things ever put to film!

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OP, nice find.

Informative comments >> good read.

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"It's obviously a surreal, slightly Kafka-esque and extremely absurdist film."
There is actually a portrait of Franz Kafka in Peter's office, shown several time behind him.

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That's a really interesting theory. I never knew that being infected with rabies could lead to hallucinations and delusions. The rabies explanation is more original than schizophrenia being the cause of Peter's psychotic behavior.


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Interesting explanation but 'tis pure speculation. There is no empirical evidence that he had rabies...

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