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Why this movie doesn't work (spoilers, obviously)


I thought this was a family movie, and my 8 year old daughter, who loves dogs (as I do), watched it with me. I was pretty shocked to see that he died. You can't have a family movie and the gruesome death of a dog. Fortunately, she understood when I explained that they put barbecue sauce on the real Hooch and somehow kept him from licking it off. But that's pretty horrifying for a child.

Now, I've read the other threads on this board, and there is some validity to what they say, that this ending is more realistic, and isn't the trite Hollywood ending where the dog survives. That's as may be, but they can't have it both ways. If the movie is going to be serious, then Tom Hanks has to be serious too, and shutup. If the movie is going to be light family fare, then the dog can't die. You can't have both.

I think this is the main reason the movie scores so low. I liked the movie fine, the scenes with Hanks and the dog are funny as hell, but as a whole, it doesn't work due to the very heavy ending. It's just too serious after such a cutesy movie. And it's not family-friendly at all.

Oh yeah, all that, and Tom "the bod" Hanks getting together with Mare "my face looks like a mare" Winningham. She's nice, she's an okay actor, but she's not in Tom's league. And she has that horse face. Ugh. Sorry, Mare, but your name says it all. (And what was it with showing Hanks in the tighty-whitey (or blacky) underwear for half the movie?)






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You know I watched this movie quite a bit growing up as a kid. Being that I was born in 1986 I have been able to see it a lot and never really had a problem with hootch's demise. Not when I was 5 or any of the billion time I have seen this. I am not attacking you\ or anything but, I dont really think this was supposed to be a very cutesy. It was just one of the more wonderful simple comedies from the 80's and 90's that you know what I kind of miss.

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Well, I have to completely disagree with you. The movie was very cutesy, and was advertised as being very cutesy. Everything that Hooch did was incredibly cute. So, as I see it, the big problem with this movie was that the director just couldn't make up his mind about whether he wanted it to be cute or serious. You can't be all cute and sweet for 90 minutes, and then turn dark and evil. This was a family film!





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Hmmm. It looks like you forgot to take your Xanax, dude. Maybe you should take the advice of your screen name and chill out.

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The movie was very cutesy


Yes, it was, especially when Amos was murdered, as was that guy before him. Oh, and when Craig T Nelson shot his "friend", and tried to kill Tom Hanks.

Yes, it was a comedy, but it had serious undertones. A guy was murdered, just to get Hanks, the neatnik, with a slobbering, dirty canine.

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Lots of movies from this time have serious undertones. That's what helps the audience connect with the characters. If there's no emotional impact, the movie has no weight. Which is why movies like Beethoven don't have the same kind of staying power as Turner and Hooch. It's emotional investment in the characters that makes this movie great.

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Instead of telling the OP to die, I'll simply respond with the subject.

It depends on what the child ordinarily watches, I can only say.

I was raised watching great staples of the 90's, like Tremors and Terminator 2, so I was used to the whole movie death thing at a young age (Real deaths, totally bothered me, not movie deaths.) Harry and the Hendersons, other family films like that.

I rarely watched Disney cartoons, although that doesn't mean I didn't watch them.
In any case, one of the movies I watched was this one, and I loved it as a kid, almost as much as now. When I did see this movie, I never had a problem with Hooch's death.

I'm currently watching it now, and I'm well aware the ending where Hooch dies, now that I'm a bit older, I'm a little bothered by it, since my dog passed away over 3 years ago, I've never been able to let myself forget that, but that's another story.

Honestly, I think it's an appropriate way for the movie to nearly finish up. If you went with an obnoxious and cliche ending, you'd have a less than sub par movie. With his death, you have an honest way to end a buddy movie, which you know is something you'll never see Chan and Tucker do for Rush Hour or Riggs and Murtaugh do in Lethal Weapon. It leaves you with the idea that they had no plan to do a sequel, which is pleasant for once, you still get a happy ending with the Puppy at the end , and it's something not typical of family films, that should be.

When Bridge to Terabithia came out, people that had never read the book didn't expect the ending (Like my Girlfriend) to be the way it would have been, and when the girl dies, it's completely unbelievable, regardless, it was a good family movie because either way you look at it, it has a reality within the fiction of it all, but it's a children's book everyone reads at least once, Tuck Everlasting, as well.

My point? if your child hasn't come to terms with death yet, wait a while before you watch something like this. If you didn't know, then you know now.

I'm still not totally comfortable with death, but I have an understanding of it, and not even doctors or policemen are comfortable with Death, but they understand it will always happen. If your child isn't old enough to grasp the situation, wait a while, find some other movies that have a soft blow on death than this one.

And plus, it's PG, for crying out loud, even if the PG-13 rating was released, this movie would still sit at a Heavy PG rating, or a light PG-13 Rating at least.

Do what most parents usually do, watch the movie first, and think about if they'll like it or not at their age, like most parents do.

That's all I have to say about that.

P.S. - That whole Hanks/ Winningham thing is completely silly. 80's, again, fellow user. The 80's didn't have the likes of all the hot women you see now, and even so, you don't need at super hot woman to play a vet. She's pretty in her own way like I find Shelly Duvual pretty.

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Well, thanks for telling me not to die.

While in principle, you are absolutely right that I should have watched the movie all the way through before letting my daughter watch it, I figured that with the whole tone of the movie, the "fact" that it was a family flick, etc., I didn't need to. Sort of like it was a Disney movie, and you don't have to prescreen those. Obviously, I figured wrong.

And there were plenty of hot women in the 80s, my friend. They just couldn't seem to find one for this picture.





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what doesn't work is: lying to your kid because you're to afraid to deal with reality!

bambi's mom didnt live, old yeller, where the red fern grows, Nemo's mom.....
family fare doesnt equal unrealistic ideal reality

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THIS WAS JUST MADE TO CASH IN ON K-9.JIM BELUSHI HAD A HIT WITH THAT ONE,AND THEN THE COP/DOG BUDDY FILMS STARTED AFTERWARDS.EVEN CHUCK NORRIS MADE ONE TOO.HEY BUT AT LEAST IN K-9 THE DOG LIVED AFYER HE SAVED THE COP'S LIFE.ACTUALLY K-9 HAD 2 SEQUELS AS WELL.

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WHAT'S WITH ALL THE CAPS?

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Not possible. There is no way this entire movie was made and released within 3 months.

And K-9 is FAR from a hit.

HEY BUT AT LEAST IN K-9 THE DOG LIVED AFYER HE SAVED THE COP'S LIFE.


Which is part of why it's an objectively worse movie and rated lower. The fact that it has sequels doesn't change either of those things.

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Why did you put spoilers in the title? This movie is almost 20 years old? Most everyone has seen it by now. By the way my kids didn't have a problem with the dog dying at the end and they are 7 and 10. They saw it when they where 6 and 9.

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I put "spoilers" in the title because some people, like me and my daughter, haven't seen this movie yet, and yes, some people who haven't seen a movie will come to IMDb to learn about it, and stumble across the ending of the movie by accident when they're not expecting it.





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Spoilers don't apply to movies that are nearly 30 years old. If people come to the boards without seeing the movie, that's their own problem at this point.

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Got one word for you - Bambi.

Ever see Finding Nemo where the mother is brutally killed in the beginning of the movie and the child is separated from his father?

Every read a non-Disney version of a fairy tale? Children's stories have always been full of horror. This one is pretty tame in comparison.

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the dog dying fits well with the story which was basically that the dog would do anything to get revenge for the death of his master

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His death isn't about revenge though. His death is about sacrifice for a friend. It marks the completion of his arc.

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I can name many "family" movies in which a character dies. The lion king seems to fit this nicely. I watched this when I was a kid and loved it. I still love it. Sometimes movies like these are a good way for children to learn the concept of death. They cant live in a bubble forever. I agree with some of the other posters that Hooch being shot showed that he would make the ultimate sacrifice in order to protect his master. And good job on commenting about the lady's face. God dude you should think about how childish that comment is.

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Yes, lots of Disney movies kill off the parents. They are very weird that way. I'm not sure that makes it right. As for the comments about watching a movie yourself before letting your kid watch it, I call BS on that remark. When a movie is marketed to kids, as being a family movie - aw, look at the cute dog! Look at the cute dog slobber! Look at the cute dog rip apart Tom Hanks' car! Look at Tom Hanks being utterly unable to control the dog! - and trust me, I remember the marketing campaign for this movie from 20 years ago, because I love dogs - then it's BS to have the dramatic hammer come down and have the dog get brutally shot at the end.

Either a movie is comedic family fare, or it's a drama. This movie tries to be both, and that is, as I said in the original post, the reason why this movie doesn't work.

As for her face, hey, childish but true. I'll admit it; as Jerry Seinfeld would no doubt say, she does not possess any of the the qualities admired by the superficial male of the species. How that woman ever became a movie "star" in Hollywood is beyond me. Maybe she gave amazing head, I dunno. And if you don't get that I'm kidding, lighten up.




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When I was a kid almost all the movies seemed to have some character you loved getting killed. Sometimes they came back to life, sometimes they didn't. It was almost a rite of passage as a kid to be able to get over those deaths and accept that everyone eventually has to die. I think throughout history adults have been kind of tough on kids (look at any nursery rhyme or old children's book, they're all twisted and dark), until recently. And recently it seems kids are now more spoiled and coddled than ever. Maybe there's a connection, maybe we do need to put the scare into our kids now and then to toughen them up. Maybe we can even scare them into losing some weight.

Anyway, it wasn't a completely sad ending, the ending was bittersweet because Turner did get another little Hooch at the end.

Actually, even when I was a kid I always thought the only thing wrong with the movie was the relationship between Hanks and the woman. It was just a weird relationship and those scenes seemed to last way too long. She was not only very average looking but her personality was also very dull, she almost looked upset when Hanks was kissing her in that overlong kitchen scene.

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