What is Clark's deal?


I love this movie, but Clark gets under my skin. I don't get it, is he a loving family man, a jerk, or is he just trying to live up to a certain image (i.e. the "perfect family Christmas"). The scene where he tells Mary he's divorced just makes him look like a prick, yet we've also got his co-worker telling him he's the "last true family man". I really don't know what to make of him. I watch this movie a lot around Christmas time, but with each viewing I come to dislike Clark more and more.

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The sub-plot of Clark flirting with a much-younger woman is a theme in most if not all of the Vacation movies. I guess it's a part of his character that is supposed to show him having a mid-life crisis, and hanging onto any chance to flirt with a girl who builds his ego up by showing him any attention. Maybe it's to make him look somewhat relatable to men in their 30's-50's?

He gets a little attention from a younger girl (he never actually cheats), and stumbles over himself trying to talk to her. It really makes him more buffoonish than a jerk. If he actually followed through and tried to date a girl, he'd be more of a jerk in my book. Kind of silly, given that Beverly D'Angelo is way hotter than any of the girls he flirts with in the Vacation movies.

Actually he is a bigger jerk in the original Vacation, when he skinny-dips with what's-her-name in the motel pool. Had I done that my wife would have shot me.

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Thanks for the insight, particularly in regards to the other Vacation movies (of which I haven't seen). Maybe if I saw them as an ongoing joke/theme I wouldn't have found his behavior with Mary as off-putting. It isn't the flirting that bothered me about it, but more the fact that he didn't hesitate to say he was divorced all while parading himself as a true family man.

And yeah, I'd say skinny dipping with someone else while in a relationship is a pretty big no-no. :P

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It isn't the flirting that bothered me about it, but more the fact that he didn't hesitate to say he was divorced all while parading himself as a true family man.

Oh, I'm with you, believe me. He did cross the line there. On a side note, I used to have a DVD player by a company called Clear Play, and you could download codes to watch a clean edits of DVDs. You could turn an R-rated movie into a G-rated movie basically...It had the code for Christmas Vacation, and removed the scenes like the ones where Clark fantasizes about women. It was awesome. Unfortunately, the Clear Play DVD player broke down, and they're on back-order :-\

Edit/update 12/26/15
Being a "family man" myself, I did order another Clear Play DVD player. I highly recommend them for anyone who wants to watch movies and have certain content (nudity, cursing) edited out. They are at clearplay.com by the way. And no, I'm not a shill for them, I just think they are awesome.

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That's interesting, it's a shame yours broke on you. I wouldn't mind skipping over the pool scene where Clark fantasizes about Mary taking off her bathing suit, I find it so dragged out mind-numbingly boring (maybe cause I'm female :P). Every time I watch that scene I want to scream "just take off the damn bathing suit already and get on with it!".

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All men fantasize about younger women, but the fact is Clark would never actually go through with it. At that moment where he's looking out the window he's frustrated with his family, not getting his bonus, cousin Eddie being at the house, etc. So he's getting away in his mind, but it's harmless. I'm not saying it's right for him to lie about being divorced, but like someone else said here he's just a buffoon who wouldn't really cheat if the opportunity presented itself.

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I get what you're saying. I have no issue with the fantasizing (aside from that scene being boring), as I said earlier it was more his lack of hesitation in telling Mary he was divorced, whilst simultaneously trying to create the "perfect" family Christmas. These two actions of Clark's seem contradictory in my opinion, I just don't get what his stance is supposed to be. Is he a jerk? Is he just a harmless buffoon? Is he a family man with a heart of gold? The scene at the mall with Mary sort of muddled what his character was supposed to be like, plus I haven't seen any of the other movies so I have no sense of Clark's character aside from this movie.

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And in the following film, Vegas Vacation, it becomes Ellen's turn to have the fantasy and step into that role with the Wayne Newton parts. A role reversal vs what we saw from Clark in the other ones.


That would make 3 Christmas' I've saved, vs. 8 that I've ruined; two were kind of a draw.. 


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> All men fantasize about younger women, but the fact is Clark would never actually go through with it.

Are you sure about that? In the first movie he took off his clothes and went skinny dipping with the hot chick. That tells me that he definitely would go through with something if a hot chick agreed to it.

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I kinda have to agree. Fantasizing is one thing, but telling a hot chick you're divorced (when you're actually married) reminds me of those men who take off their wedding rings when they're out, as if they don't want it to hurt their chances of hooking up with a new woman. It's a sketchy thing to do. If Clark also went as far as skinny dipping with another woman (I haven't seen that movie), then I could definitely see him going further if the opportunity presented itself. But, it's hard to say when he's just a character in a movie.

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As a guy, the whole Clark-might-fool-around subplot never made any sense. Like I said in another post, none of the girls he flirts with in the Vacation series is even remotely close to the hotness that is his movie-wife, Beverly D'Angelo. She is sex on legs. Not that it would make cheating justifiable if she were dowdy. Just saying, she is pretty much a 10, and puts up with a lot of crap from him that most women would not deal with.

Maybe it's the middle-age man trying to hang onto some bit of youth, flirting with a younger woman. But, speaking as a middle-aged man (happily married) I have zero interest in even flirting with a younger woman, maybe because I am happy at home and haven't had a mid-life crisis. Plus, from what I can remember, younger people are kind of high-maintenance and clingy. Nooo, spank-you...

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I don't think it's about being a 10 or not. It's that those women don't know the real him. The need to start a new life with a new person is probably what drive a lot of divorces. With a new person they get a new start at who they want to be, at least they think so. Same thing with the flirting. Sure, he might find them attractive, but also he gets to be his own fantasy for those moments.


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It had the code for Christmas Vacation, and removed the scenes like the ones where Clark fantasizes about women. It was awesome.

It sounds about as awesome as getting a root canal.





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Uh, D'Angelo is gorgeous but she is nowhere NEAR Christie Brinkley and Scorsese is sexy as *beep*

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>Kind of silly, given that Beverly D'Angelo is way hotter than any of the girls he flirts with in the Vacation movies.

Hotter than Christie Brinkley in her prime? As if. D'Angelo wasn't even in the same league as Brinkley.

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Have to agree. This used to be a Christmas favourite (second only to It's A Wonderful Life). The more I watch it, however, the more I realise just how unlikable Clark is.


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Have to agree. This used to be a Christmas favourite (second only to It's A Wonderful Life). The more I watch it, however, the more I realise just how unlikable Clark is.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. For a Christmas movie, he is definitely not a likeable main character.

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Oh come on, it was just harmless flirting. I was more upset with him in the first film, I mean, seriously, I could understand him flirting for a little bit, but to actually get naked and jump in the pool with her???

If the water hadn't been freezing and he hadn't woken everyone up, just how far would that have went. He should have came to his senses the moment she asked him to leave the bar.

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He would have cheated, he seems weak and easily led

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If you're that upset then you have life problems. The movie is hilarious and I think you take things way too seriously, I would HATE to me you.

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Seem you're the one wound up too tight. Don't worry, I have no plans to meet you.

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He's a parody, he's so wrapped up in the American way of life that he doesn't know which way to turn next, but what shines through is that he's a decent family man, who loves his wife and kids.

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he's a decent family man, who loves his wife and kids

He is such a decent family man that made a complete twat of himself over the attractive assistant at the langerie counter. He also told her he was divorced.


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He is such a decent family man that made a complete twat of himself over the attractive assistant at the lingerie counter. He also told her he was divorced.

Yup, this was exactly my point in my original post. He is completely contradictory. The total "family man" that tells a pretty woman he's divorced at the drop of a hat? I don't really get a "decent family man who loves his wife & kids" vibe from that.

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> All men fantasize about younger women, but the fact is Clark would never actually go through with it.

Are you sure about that? In the first movie he took off his clothes and went skinny dipping with the hot chick. That tells me that he definitely would go through with something if a hot chick agreed to it.

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What Would Jesus Do For A Klondike Bar (WWJDFAKB)?




This flirty is one thing but saying you are divorced, going skinny dipping with another girl. He was definitely up for cheating but was always interrupted by his pesky family

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He's just a stupid man that turns into an idiot around a pretty girl. Flirting is pretty harmless when you're shopping with your son anyway. This doesn't take away from the fact that he just wants a perfectly unrealistic Christmas just like he always wants the perfect vacation.God bless Ellen.

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I don't see what the big deal is about casual flirting. Sure he shouldn't have said that he was divorced, but he didn't actually do anything. Doesn't mean he loves his family any less. He was just being silly.

I'm not a huge fan of this movie like a lot of people, but I don't think Clark is a jerk.

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His co-worker saw him as the "last true family man" because Clark was talking about putting in the pool, because of Clark's enthusiasm for Christmas, etc. He didn't see the way Clark was hitting on Mary.

To me, Clark is a family man who overdoes things. At the same time, he also saw an attractive woman and "forgot" himself.

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I never really thought about this much. I'd say he's so deep in his everyman persona that he surely married Ellen out of high school.
I mean, he's even fantasizing about the lingerie clerk when she's not around - during the swimming pool daydream. I'm betting his & Ellen's sex life is as dull as drywall. I wonder what his online history would look like 21st century.

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He needed a coffin, ah a tree. And walah!

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Sometimes there is just way to much ANALysis of movies. Why be distracted by one scene (which ties in nicely to another one)? All men under the age of 107 have reveries about women who are not their wives or SA's. The key is to your behavior, not your thoughts. I know that the department store scene was IRL, not fantasies, but it was an important one and accomplished a couple of things. One was to further develop the character of both Clark and Rusty, his son. The other was of course for the swimming pool scene.

Also Remember the origin of this movie. National Lampoon has always been the billboard for irreverance, so a little "naughtiness" in the great movie is not only OK, but it is EXPECTED. There were several other mildly tasteless sexual and bodily function innuendos in the film.

"Dislike" Clark Griswald? No way.

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