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MAN EVERYONE MUST HATE THIS MOVIE


I guess I'm too much of a sci-fi nerd. I liked this movie. Everyone else must hate it!

I liked the Time-Travel stuff and how the professor puts it together and is lecturing to his class:

"What about the possibility of time travel. What if you built a time machine and went back in time and killed your father - how then would you have been born to build the time machine and kill your father? It is these sort of paradoxes that make most scientists dismiss the idea of time travel. However, what could you do if you went back in time? You couldn't kill Hilter, as much as you might want to. But you could do a remarkable number of things - you could take a grain of sand from the Sahara Desert. You could take a cup of water from the Atlantic Oceean. What is the difference between a person who's dead and a person who's a live - possibly quite a bit but what's the difference between a person who's alive and a person who's about die?"

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I with you Sphinx I loved this when I saw it back in the 90's, I have just managed to find a copy of it.

When theres no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.

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I used to have it on tape from HBO but not anymore too bad - that probably means I'll never see it again.

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The thing about this film is that I had forgotten the title, it was mentioned in Empire that its out on DVD that I relised we had a copy at work.

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hythlodaeus, are you in the US?

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It was on HBO this morning, which is why I looked it up. So it's still around.

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<<<I liked this movie. Everyone else must hate it!>>>

And they have good reason to.It stinks like spoiled fish.

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But Polish Fish smell like roses!

When I was a kid television was called BOOKS!

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That's not what I heard.... :)

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That's not what I heard.... :)

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I like Millennium. John Varley says he does not like Millennium.

Don't forget Sherman explains to Louise.

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I love this movie myself:) Captivating flick indeed...
Only bad thing about it was that I couldn't get a hold
of it in my countrys videostores, so I had to go to Play.com
to get it..

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Yeah, nobody liked it, I guess, so it's hard to find.

The movie was very cheesy but it had some great Sci-Fi in it. I should get a copy of it before you can never find it anymore. I can always skip through the crud to the good parts.

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Actually, this was an okay movie, as sci-fi movies go. Varley wrote a short story called Air Raid and then lengthened it to the longer version. It wasn't terrible and good to see Kris in something like this for a change.

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"the sleeper must awaken"

Allright, allright Mom, I'm up! Don't worry I won't be late for school.

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Don't you know where that came from? "The sleeper must awaken."


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It's from Dune.

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I am so glad you know it. Only a true sci-fi fan would recognize it!

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Well, or a true movie fan. I read most of the dune books but after a while they started to make my head spin and started to feel bleak like some episodes of Dr. Who. I'm more of a pop-sci-fi fan. My favorite movie is probably Gattaca.

Always nice to meet a fellow sci-fi junkie.

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Did you think the Dune movie was done a little tongue in cheek? I just love the over the top performances.
About the books: the first one was all right, but they were all so "more of the same".


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Hmm, I never figured it was done as a parody. The performances were over the top the voice overs were so annoying, "Dune, Arakis, Desert Planet, the Spice - what is the connection?" Baron Harkonen was very over the top - Sting was a freaky choice but I thought the other characters were great - even though the short version of Dune was less accurate I'll bet I like it better than the mini that was on sci-fi channel or something.

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Hmm, I never figured it was done as a parody. The performances were over the top the voice overs were so annoying, "Dune, Arakis, Desert Planet, the Spice - what is the connection?" Baron Harkonen was very over the top - Sting was a freaky choice but I thought the other characters were great - even though the short version of Dune was less accurate I'll bet I like it better than the mini that was on sci-fi channel or something.

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I have a four hour version and there is a lot that wasn't in the original. I hated the mini-series.
Lynch had them all speak so slowly and melodramatically. I gues that is his style, but the cast: Look at who he had in his cast! Linda Hunt, Patrick Stewart, Max Von Sydow! My kids and I got a lot of good one-liners from it, too. It may have ;not been done as a parody, but as an actor, I have done meodrama and I know it when I see it.

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Well, I'm no actor. I don't think I've ever watched it even with my oldest who's 10. I don't know if she'd like it - probalby since I did.

The casting was great - speaking of Max Von Sydow is great - did you see him in Citizen X - another great movie of a completely different sort - the true story of Chicatillo the Russian serial killer who kiled around 56 kids and young adults.

I thought Patrick Stuart - I don't remember Linda Hunt - but I liked the woman who played Jessica and - really all of them were pretty good and the guy who played Duncan - though later when I read the other books you realize what a warrior Duncan was supposed to be so I suppose they could have found someone better.

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Linda Hunt was the housekeeper who got her throat cut by Dr. Huey when he opened the house generators.
The guy who played Duncan died a few years ago. He was a good actor but I can't remember his name only things I've seen him in.
I'm not sure a ten year old would really like it. They might like the worms. But it's pretty mature for them to grasp.
We called this movie "Worms of Endearment"

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She's pretty old for a kid - when she was a four year old she watched Gattaca with us and actually got it mostly. But I hadn't figured they'd like it as much until they were older.

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His name was Richard Jordan, and he died in '93 from a brain tumor. Sorry to read this, I didn't know. He played NSA Van Pelt in my all time favorite movie The Hunt for Red October. :(

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0430151/

And I agree. After reading the Dune prequels and finding out what a bad-ass Idaho was, Jordan was a poor choice I think.

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you are right, it was Richard Jordan. He was one of those actors that you don't always remember his name but he did a darn good job. But I don't agree that he was wrong for the part. Remember the house of Atriedes(s) had the weirding way, and were trained in different battle techniques. Maybe later on if Lynch had decided to do the series. But he didn't show up for long in the first book. And in the movie he didn't have much of a chance to show off his fighting skills. I believe they cloned Duncan Idaho later on or something like that. I lost interest in the books. Don't know why.
I just realized we are on a board for a completely different movie.

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I thought it was a fun film, hardly provoking but it was not needless either. I'm always interested how films deal with time travel.

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I'm with the original poster. This film was fun. I watch it every time it's on.

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I Tivo-ed this when it was on the Fox Movie Channel and watched it yesterday. I really only like the first 45 minutes--before you see the future world. But I've seen it about 15 times since it first showed up on HBO.

I really wish that they didn't make the future look like "Spacehunter--Adventures In the Forbidden Zone"! :)

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Well, I'm not a sci-fi nerd and I generally find space-oriented movies quite boring, but I found this quite good. Daniel J. Travanti's lecture was a real mind-expander, and the performances, set design and art direction were enough to maintain my attention. 7/10 stars.

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Yeah, the Physics lecture was really the heart of the story.

I live in a college town and at my church many of the people who come there are math, biology, Philosophy and English PhD students and few have ever seen The Twilight Zone or have read many interesting books.

I end up liking movies if they present an interesting idea - even if the rest of the movie is boring or silly.

For example, the best thing about Catcher in the Rye was just the idea hinted at in the title. The rest of the book was there to present the idea.

Millennium was like that, a good idea wrapped in a cheesy sci-fi/love story - but the idea made it worth it.

What hump?

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Interesting analogy to "Catcher in the Rye." I also much prefer books and films where the plot description is only the tip of the iceberg.

Most science fiction doesn't particularly interest me because it tends to be driven by spectacle and effects rather than characters with real motivations that have relevance in our world. That's a generalization, of course, but it comes from seeing too many films about Kryptons battling Ewoks (or whatever the good and bad characters of the given "event" film are).

This film did a very good job of connecting humanity with science early through Daniel J. Travanti's character, and I think the scenes between Kris Kristofferson and Cheryl Ladd worked quite well together despite what many of the other posters on this board say.

Once I became invested in the people in this film, I gained interest in the creatures they interacted with -- particularly the lady with the stretchy skin. You know, like in "Brazil" http://llwyd.tripod.com/gross/brazil.htm and "Brain Dead" http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1256362496/tt0099173 .

Had I not cared for the present-day human characters first, though, I would have though those supporting players were just gimmicks. This film really has some clever set design and art direction -- along with effects that look dated now, of course, but I'm fine with that.

It seems when people dislike something on these boards, they absolutely rip it to shreads rather than seeing it as a flawed film that could have used some improvement. I usually find some nuggets of amusement even in movies that I agree are bad, unless they are painful to watch or, worse, boring.

I like this film despite its flaws, but mostly I like it for its humanity (which is probably connected to what others see as its flaws).

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WarpedRecord (Good name BTW),

I think I see what you mean, I wasn't saying Catcher in the Rye had anything to do with this movie but to me the Millennium was all about that monologue,

"You couldn't kill Hitler, as much as you might want to. But you could do a remarkable number of things, take a cup of water from the Pacific Ocean, a grain of sand from the Sahara Desert. What is the difference between a live man a dead man - what's the difference between a live man and a man who's about to die?"

Whatever it was, I haven't seen the movie in about 15 years but I never forgot that idea.

Yeah, people like to rip stuff to shreds, it's easier than putting something together, ha another line comes to mind... "As a matter of cosmic history, it has always been easier to destroy than to create"

So people like you and me can do the synthesis, when most people seem to only want to do the digestion and elimination. Synthesis is more fun that defecation.

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I agree, Warp, except why would a genius start playing with unknown future toys?

"Eye of the Beholder"

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