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Once again, conservative values > spineless, liberal teachings


Why do you think all the parents in liberal Hollywood are raising spoiled little punks? yes I'm talking to you (Tom hanks, Alex Baldwin & Michael Logan.) You don't let a 14 year old run a house hold! You tell him, "I'm in charge, the adult!" What ever happened to strong parenting and saying "no" to your kids. Every parent and teacher should watch this movie! And, yes I know that Morgan Freeman is far from being a conservative in the beginning of the movie and in real life but he definitely bats for the other team in this role!

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Authoritativeness is actually weakness. So when you say spineless, that's not correct. Authortativeness is driven by fear. It's more complicated than authoritativeness to raise good kids. For example, the most "authoritative" countries are the worst. One needs to use one's brain to raise good kids. Know how the child brain works and learn to work with that. Teach them things, show them how the world works and how humans work and how to operate within that system. Teach them to manage their emotions, and how to use higher brain functions. Authoritativeness is operating on low, stupid brain functions. Don't confuse toughness with stupidity. True toughness is using your brain properly to achieve success, not just emotional aggression. Look at the terrible problems mindless, base, misplaced aggression causes. ALL of the world's problems are caused by that. Don't look at not being authoritative as being "weak", but as being "strong" and "smart".

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If I can try to expand on the other reply to your post...

Having leftist or liberal tendencies does not mean being against authority. I'm one of those people that, even now, as an older man, still have a hard time kowtowing to undeserved authority. The keyword here is "undeserved". I have no problems on being quiet and obeying orders given by people that have proved to be much smarter and sensible than I am.

Today, many people, specially children and teens at school, are expected to bow down and accept peacefully orders given by hypocrites - either politicians, teachers, the police, the church and their own parents. These people often do not make any effort to behave in a way which is morally and logically in agreement with what they want the children to do. That's authority for authority's sake, there's no merit on it. That's not being respectful - that's subservience.

I, for one, am quite pleased that youngsters still are hanging on to that rebellious attitude, generation after generation. "Well-behaved" teenagers would certainly make the job of teachers and parents much easier, but it wouldn't make the world a better place.

Peaceful protests are the weapon of choice of smart people. The others, the ones wanting to kill this instinctive tendency to question everything which all human beings have, have every other weapon available for themselves in their arsenal, including actual weapons.

I can understand the important role and difficult job which policemen have to do, but if children and teenagers trying to be heard is such a dangerous thing, we have all already failed as a society.

So it's easy to put all the blame for a bad educational system and violence on bad parents not imposing their authority on their own children, but it seems you're conveniently forgetting about the bigger problems - absurd levels of social and economical disparities.

No, I'm not a communist, I don't think a neurosurgeon and a bus driver should be paid the same. But when you have billionaires hiding money on the stock market just to add a few more zeros to their accounts, while living next to people who are starving to death, then I guess your notion that everything that's wrong about the world is that poor people don't respect authority like rich people do, then you're either being overly naïve or... I don't know, maybe you're a bad person?

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