I am almost finished reading "The Queen is Dead" and I am sooooooo confused. I understood everything up until the end. Does anyone know any sites that have a summary for the book. Thanks in a advance.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
I finished "The Queen is Dead" and I'm still confused. Please help!
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
Could you be more specific? What exactly are you confused about?
shareWhat happened to Georgette at the end? The writing got a little disjointed. However, because of the title of the story, I figured she died.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
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thats selby for you all his writing is out of any context that anyone has ever done thats why i love his stuff he can bring confusion and disorientation thru to anyone just thru words hes a master of his craft even without trying
shareYes, Georgette does die. The great irony is that this was the first story Selby wrote, and was cast as the driver of the car which strikes her, effectivly killing his own character in print and on film.
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Wow. no one who commented on this thread read the book.
Everything these fools said was a lie.
Georgette is in no way in harms way.
She is giving a B***Job to Vinnie after he has had sex with another she/male.
The last line is "it wasnt S**t".
This is refering to how it no longer matters to her what Vinnie has done becuase she is so happy to finaly be intamate with him.
It is really an amazing ending to a great chapter.
Please dont comment on this kind of stuff if you watch movies and dont read like an idiot.
I love films as much as the next. Honest.
Dont cite the movie though.
Last exit to brooklyn is an american classic as a book.
and less then a fair movie.
thanks for reading kubrickfan
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ermm, ever thought that they killed off Georgette because they assumed the audience WOULD actually like the character? And obviously they depicted Harry as being deserving of his tragic fate, but not for being gay, anyone can see that. What really boggles me is how you read from that that they were trying to say "gay people deserve to die".
Ironically, this isn't even ironic at all.
Sorry, but I agree with alkamal, that a large chunk of your criticism of the movie is based on speculation only.
shareRead the book again. Georgette died of a heroin OD.
His last, dying thought ("it wasn't sh*t") refers not only to the taste in his mouth but to the world (and life) he's just left behind. He always was a dreamer.
yes Selby meant it literally not figuratively (s)he was so high on alcohol, bennies, and the 3 hypodermic shots of codeine the she was arguing with herself or trying to convince herself (in her dreamy romantic fantasy) that she just blew Vinnie when in fact she just blew Harry and was tasting the crap from Lee's (the upscale tranny's) ass. "NO not w/ her"
Selby's lack of punctuation and interchanging he/she pronouns for the same gay trannies makes reading this book a new learning experience. It's really a stream of consciousness with internal and external dialog intertwined.
I'm up to 'Part V : Strike' so far. The last chapter the seventeen year old girl just got gang banged by 40 or 50 guys and the remaining kids jacked off and peed on her face and shoved a broom handle up her vagina and left her in the dirt lot.
Selby is really in a class of his own.
I read 'The Room' and got used to his writing style. That's really an amazing book. Practically the whole book takes place in an unstable convict's mind.
Just another note Requiem for a Dream is the most intense movie ever made! Can't wait to see 'the Fountain'
Did you tell LUKE..? Is THAT who you could tell??
Sure, but Selby meant it literally AND figuratively. Most of his work goes deeper than just surface mung.
shareI'm up to 'Part V : Strike' so far. The last chapter the seventeen year old girl just got gang banged by 40 or 50 guys and the remaining kids jacked off and peed on her face and shoved a broom handle up her vagina and left her in the dirt lot.
I've not *yet* watched the film (its finally arriving on DVD), and read the book what must be nigh on 20 years ago and this scene is the one that is completed burnt in my brain, more so than pretty much any other book I've ever read. On one side, I'm a bit bewildered how this could be filmed and the whole of Tralala's story and hope they haven't ruined it too much (apart from apparently giving her a happier ending than the possibly more realistic book one). Am I to be disappointed?
Writ in Water:
Read the book again. Georgette died of a heroin OD.
His last, dying thought ("it wasn't sh*t") refers not only to the taste in his mouth but to the world (and life) he's just left behind. He always was a dreamer.
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I agree with you 100%.
I don't where these other folks' ideas are coming from.
I'm not saying they're wrong because we can never know for sure, but it seemed quite clear to me that the ending as described above was what happened.
Cheers...
Buzz Cartier
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I didn't see it as her dying at the end. Like another person said, she was just finally giving Vinnie a blow job, and trying desperately to convince herself that she's not tasting s***, that the smell was only from Harry *beep* Lee in that room. The only thing that would give the impression that she died was the title.
Until on the Day when He says Rise only the flat-iron would come floating up.
Why confused? It's a good book that was turned into a good (but not as good as the book) movie.
sharei was also left a bit dumb founded near the end of the first story.
Thanks for clearing that stuff up. So is the harry from the first story is the same harry during the strike ? I need to get my hands on all of Hurbs books. Wish a teacher had thrown a copy of this one my way in high school.
the room tops my to read list
The edition of the book I've just finished reading had an introduction by Selby at the front, where he explicitly says that Gerogette is dying from an OD.
However, had I not read that I don't think it was clear from the text what was actualyl happening. I thought she was just kind of slumping down somewhere, trying to convince herself that things would be better.
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