Turns his back on Daniel the moment Daniel runs into trouble. Jackass.
shareHe's not in this film is he?
shareNo, but screw Freddy from 3 films ago. (I'm STILL bitter)!
shareI know how you feel.
Freddie was an a** e hole.
When you think about it it was probably all his fault what happened to Daniel as he took him to the beach party.
"No, but screw Freddy from 3 films ago. (I'm STILL bitter)!"
HAHAHAHAHA!
Whinielle brought most of his trouble on himself. Why would anyone want to associate with someone who would get them into trouble? You KNOW you wouldn’t want to have Snake (LAs Bad Boy) as an enemy just because you were hanging out with LaRusso.
shareFreddie had been generous and welcoming, inviting Danielle to a beach party and introducing him to his inner circle. Daniel repaid him by starting a fight in the middle of a mellow gathering and ruining everybody’s good time.
shareVery true.. in Cobra Kai Johnny tells Miguel all about how Whinielle caused a big scene on the beach and ruined the party.
shareI think Johnny and his mates ruined the beach party, they were all enjoying the party until they started wheel spinning sand at everyone.
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Well yeah, that's the intellectual side of the argument I guess, but this is MC after all...
Good point.
shareI thought it was Tommys fault. He was the one who pointed out Ali and Daniel, stirring it up so to speak.
shareDaniel threw everything off balance. Had he not intervened, Johnny and Ali would have resolved their argument and gotten back together shortly afterward.
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It was over between Ali and Johnny. If Ali had been remotely interested in Johnny still, she would have gotten back with him instead of going on to be with Daniel.
shareHow can you be so obtuse WA?
Johnny and Ali were working on their relationship and then Whinielle butted in and got violent!
Christ, haven't you seen Cobrai Kai? Johnny recounted the event to Miguel perfectly.
WA: “It was the 80s cruisin. You couldn’t be so damn passive!”
shareExcept he didn't did he? He recounted HIS version of events.
Ali did not want to talk to Johnny. She made that perfectly clear. If she wanted to get back with Johnny she would have.
Simple.
Johnny and Ali were working on their relationship and then Whinielle butted in and got violent!
Christ, haven't you seen Cobrai Kai? Johnny recounted the event to Miguel perfectly.
You need to rewatch the film with a more critical eye. Film historians agree that Johnny’s behavior at the beach was justified:
“ Perched atop a nearby cliff top is our Johnny, talking excitedly of his impending senior reign and enjoying a celebratory beer with his bros. But soaring moments tend to be fleeting as Johnny is quickly grounded when alerted to trouble brewing on the sands below. Justifiably infuriated by the unexpected sight of his chunky girlfriend being courted by a coltish stranger in home-made cut-off jean shorts, Johnny intervenes.
Johnny confronts Ali’s betrayal, but she has already succumbed to Daniels musky spell and the simple, classless future he might offer. Instead of talking it out, Ali keeps cranking her boombox up to 11 in a petulant display, using it as a dumb shield against his overwhelming reasoning. Tired of her childish reaction, Johnny lobs the radio into the soft sand, not intending to break it of course, but only seeking to maneuver the conversation in a constructive direction. But the apparent disregard for Alis property is all it takes to spark aggression in Daniel’s brutish mind and it is at this pivotal moment that he decides to stick his big, marinara-stained nose where it doesn’t belong.
Daniel rushes to the aid of the radio in a weak attempt to cull favor from Ali with a grand display of the obsequiousness a relationship with him would offer. Johnny, annoyed by yet another middling distraction, tries to hand Daniel the radio so hell hopefully rush off to fence it, but in the process, accidentally shoves him to the ground because he greatly overestimated Daniels ability to stand.
“ Daniel, fueled by New Jersey Choochery, rushes Johnny, who properly reacts to the low threat level with a harmless trip, hoping that it’ll send a clear message of dominance in its effortlessness. Unfortunately, all it does is cause a fresh surge of garlic-tainted adrenaline to gush into Daniel who doesn’t get the point, even after his second embarrassing face plant. Johnny, not wanting to further humiliate Daniel, drops his guard just long enough to catch a total sucker punch that bloodies his nose. No man should be expected to absorb such an act of cowardice with grace. In a quick flurry that is more reflex than response, Johnny handily dispatches Daniel, knowing that dropping him will be the only way to cease his macho charges and spare him serious injury.
Ali somehow manages to chastise Johnny for defending himself from the spaz attacks of this busybody stranger and opts to rush to Daniels aid as he lays sobbing and bleeding in the sand like the Every wimp in the first cells of a Charles Atlas advertisement. A fine moment comes when Daniels group of potential friends garnish the beat-down sundae with a bright cherry of disgusted insults and dismissive gestures as they leave his prone form to be nipped at by the crabs.”
You need to rewatch the film with a more critical eye.
And you need to rewatch the film with a less biased eye.
Film historians agree that Johnny’s behavior at the beach was justified:
No, they really don't. Unless Film historians means you
You need to rewatch the film with a more critical eye. Film historians agree that Johnny’s behavior at the beach was justified..
Glad that you’ve seen the light. Don’t be led astray by unsavory characters like Wearsalan, who roam these boards trying to indoctrinate others into their perverse cult.
shareAnd where is Freddie during all of this? He's cowarding in the back, where the s'more fixins have been left unattended.
Freddie = worst......friend.....EVER.
Look, if anyone leaves smore fixins unattended then they're fair game by all known beach party rules going all the way back to Frankie and Annette.
Instead be led astray by someone who has a split personality (both wankers) in to joining their perverse cult where it's alright to torture a kid who (sob!) won a karate competition.
sharestrntz: Listen I gave your offer some thought.
cruisin109: And?
strntz: And if it's not too much trouble I'd like to take you up on it.
cruisin109: Sure it would be an honor. How does Wears Alan feel about it?
strntz: Wears Alan.. uh.... Wears Alan he.... doesn't need to know about it.
cruisin109: But he knows you're competing?
strntz: Yeah.. I mean he knows that he just doesn't approve.
cruisin109: Well, everyone has a right to his opinion. Listen I won't say anything.
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Two words: "Makin' Bacon". That kind of smut may go over well in TJ or Guadalajara but there's no place for it in Ronald Reagan's California. Hopefully the next YouTube series related to the KK will track Freddie's efforts to elude ICE followed by his eventual offing at the hands of a cartel or MS-13.
shareYes, it’s bizarre how Freddie and the guys immediately abandon him after he gets his ass kicked by school bullies that they also live in fear of.
Freddie is smart. He is the type of kid who wouldn't jump off a bridge just because his friends did it. Let's get real, Freddie has a bright future ahead of him. He isn't going to risk alienating the Cobra Kai over some unstable guy he just met.
shareFreddy is a weasel. soon as Daniel looks like winning, he's there cheering him on.
share1. Freddy is a fan of karate and cheers in the spirit of competition.
2. Freddy roots for the underdog.
3. Freddy is happy that Daniel found redemption and is applauding his growth.
Any way you slice it, Freddy is a good person.
Freddy is a fair weather friend....any way you slice it. It was brought up on these boards ages ago and you are the first to ever say otherwise.
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