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He gained 30lbs in his ass alone.
Look at the 19 second mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoPs8f_6YZI
Have you ever SEEN such a gargantuan caboose?
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He didn't actually want to do the movie so basically made no attempt to do anything other than show up for filming.
shareSo why did he do it? Did Avildson put a gun to his head?
shareHe was contracted to do it NRC123
shareThe fact that you keep calling me NRC123 and NRC123 me telegraphs that you know we are different people. LOL. So Macchio was contracted for 3 pictures huh? Source? There was no clause that he maintain a healthy body weight?
shareNo. Not 3 pictures. After the first he signed a contract for two more movies (Karate kid 2 & 3)
I do that to let you know that I know you are the same person NRC123
I thought he had been injured and didn't have time to get back in shape before filming started.
shareHe felt he was being typecast and argued a lot with his agent at the time (remember he was 26 when part 3 was filmed). He even physically attacked her when she actually got on his case about getting in shape for KK3 complaining about some back injury (claimed he'd pulled his back lifting something). He was contractually bound to make KK3 so in the end he had no choice but to shoot the movie.
shareNever heard that story before.
shareOld news. He wanted more mature parts and blamed the Karate Kid for him being cast as a youth. He'd recently been married and didn't want to carry on playing the part of a teenager. He also asked for his character not to be romantically involved with yet another teenage girl.
shareI had heard the story about Robin Lively before. He was uncomfortable with that because she was still a minor and he was almost 30 at the time.
shareSo you're saying he physically assaulted his agent?
What should I believe a smart talking IMDB-board closer like you.... so Macchio can end up locked up in there with you?
Why would I expect you to believe me NRC123?
I couldn't care less one way or the other.
Of course not, but it will cost you. A lawyer for example.
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shareI see you are talking to yourself again cruisin109
shareNRC123... do you wanna see some more?
shareI hate to break up this fight club tribute act, but you've been rumbled.
shareRalph Macchio admitted that he thought that the script for KKIII was subpar. He said that it was simply a remake of the first movie without "the good stuff". That could shed some light for why he didn't feel that he should've been more "committed" to the role, either physically or mentally.
https://movieweb.com/the-karate-kid-3-facts-trivia/
http://www.comicon.com/2018/05/05/the-karate-kid-part-iii-is-your-weekend-cheesy-movie/
https://moviehole.net/what-was-the-original-plot-of-the-karate-kid-part-iii/
I have seen the movie several times, and I have never considered him out of shape.
shareHis weight gain is listed as a continuity error on IMDb:
”This film takes place less than a month after the previous film but Daniel is considerably heavier, especially evident in his face, and it is very clearly fat or bloat, rather than muscle which makes no sense for someone following such a strict, healthy lifestyle.”
So mac n cheese is a healthy lifestyle, cruisin109?
shareYour old friends at IMDb made the point. It’s on record that he was overweight, affecting the continuity and plausibility of the film. He tainted the trilogy’s legacy by not taking his fitness seriously.
shareWhich itself ties in with what I posted, cruisin109.
shareIt’s irresponsible for you to endorse Daniel to your young students. You’re teaching them that exercise and proper diet can be ignored in favor of kata and macaroni and cheese. They deserve better guidance from their elders.
shareJust remind me, where exactly do I endorse that cruisin109?
Oh that's right, I don't.
Epic fail from you there.
You’ve repeatedly sung both Daniel and Miyagi’s praises for the better part of a decade. Someone with your warped sense of ethics should not be allowed to mentor children.
shareCruisin109, it's about time you took your head out of your arse and read what I post. My posts (when not arguing with you and your alter-ego about non existent crap), are usually calling you, and in days gone by other kai, on your skewed version of events.
Crane kick was illegal - False.
Daniel wasn't bullied - False
Kata moves are illegal when performed on a kumite mat - False
That's me pointing out the flaw in your view point.
Is Daniel a jerk? Yes. Does he bring a lot of shit on himself? Yes. Is he likeable? No.
Does that make Kreese right to pursue him? No.
Or Silver? No.
He won a competition he entered pure and simple. Kreese spat the dummy out because hey guess what? He's got no sense of fair play, compassion or honour. Neither has his Dick Dastardly side kick Silver.
You want to go on about warped sense of ethics then look at the shit you post. It might help you in addressing your schizophrenia.
You’re fighting a losing battle against reality.
Crane kick was illegal - False
No less an authority than Ralph Macchio himself has admitted Daniel deserved to be disqualified.
https://www.thewrap.com/ralph-macchio-karate-kid-crane-kick-cobra-kai-daniel-larusso/
“And yes, Macchio said, ‘No hits to the face was clearly something when the referee made the list of things what not to do.’”
Daniel wasn't bullied - False
He instigated a fight with a regional karate champion then played the victim after his opponent stood his ground.
Kata moves are illegal when performed on a kumite mat - False
As he did the year before, Referee Johnson failed to penalize Daniel for breaking tournament rules. An investigation should have been launched into his conduct.
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Cruisin109, you really do walk in to these don't you?
Ralph Macchio, that authority on Karate rules eh? First off if that were even true then Johnny wouldn't have even made it to the final after kicking that guy in the face earlier in the competition. He most certainly would have been disqualified for kicking Daniel in the face, IF and I mean IF that were the case.
But hey, why take notice of the man who is still a referee at national finals and was given (third year running) the top job at the finals of refereeing the mens senior kumite final.
Oh that's right because it proves you wrong.!
Actually he didn't instigate the fight, Johnny did by shoving him to the floor. His big mistake was standing his ground against said local champion instead of just backing down.
The same Johnson who knows the rules and you don't? But hey, I'll play. Kick to the groin - instant disqualification. Yet Barnes wasn't disqualified. Swearing - instant disqualification. Yet Barnes wasn't disqualified. In fact Barnes who already had this bad boy reputation and was warned before the match even started, was given more leeway than any competitor than I've ever seen. Here's the thing though...it's the referee who makes the call, not some fucking mat side general without the full grasp of the rules. Silver and Krees both knew the rules and guess what? No challenge was made to any of Pat Johnsons decisions.
So when the Kai don't even back this ridiculous suggestion of yours, what have you got?
NOTHING!
Daniel shouldn’t have been allowed to compete in the first place. He stole a black belt to gain entry. You’re morally bankrupting your students by teaching them it’s OK to lie, cheat and steal.
shareFirst off, HE didn't steal the blackbelt. He was told Buddha provide. Furthermore, how exactly does that disqualify him? Quote the rule or shut the fuck up!
Secondly where have I ever said to any student of mine that it is ok to lie, cheat and steal? No that would be Kreese (out of commission ).
Too easy cruisin109.
This is the part where you stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and go lalalallala!
You just got dicked on a public forum
Whinielle was an accomplice to theft from the American Karate Association.. that makes it a federal crime and he should be given the electric chair (with a dry sponge) as punishment.
Also Ghost-WA, now that you are a ghost why are you continuing to haunt this forum?
Except he wasn't NRC123. If anything Ali was the accomplice. Perhaps you should give your kangaroo court justice to her.
Why am I haunting this forum? I'm not since I'm still alive. Why are you pretending to be two different posters?
He was complicit in a felony, turning a blind eye when it suited him. Not only should he have been disqualified, he should have left the building in handcuffs.
You weren’t sent back to earth to fight a losing argument on an online message board, Swayze. There must be some higher purpose to this divine miracle. If you don’t leave, we’ll be forced to call the Ghostbusters and have you contained.
He was not complicit in any felony as he had no knowledge of any felony being committed. But either way I'll ask again, quote the rule that would disqualify him. either that or shut the fuck up.
As for being sent back to Earth, I haven't left Earth. Also it would be you who would appear to be losing the argument. But then again, you were presented with irrefutable evidence that proved me innocent yet you weren't big enough to accept you were wrong.
You do know that anyone who reads that evidence knows that you were wrong don't you? Or are you sat in your cellar in blissful ignorance talking to yourself and patting yourself on the back?
Daniel did not have the prerequisites to enter the tournament. The official informed them that the division was for brown belts and above. He lied, cheated and stole within the space of a few seconds.
shareBlissful ignorance it is then
shareThe incident is there for all to see. Miyagi was clearly a seasoned criminal, breaking the law with the casualness of a Soprano family member.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3DtsyLt1Ko
Which has what to do with Daniel and any rule you seem to think disqualifies him?
Come on don't be shy now.
Summing up: Daniel/Macchio was thirty pounds overweight, reflecting poorly on both the actor and character. Apart from being a lying delinquent from Newark, as established in the first two films, we can now add gluttony to his list of crimes. He’s an awful example for young karatekas and anyone defending him is lacking a moral compass.
shareAs is anyone holding a kangaroo court and finding a person guilty despite evidence to the contrary.
See how real life doesn't work too well for you?
The jury found you guilty, not me. I was just doing my job as a prosecutor. You should take responsibility for your bad decisions instead of blaming others for your current predicament.
shareWhat Jury? There wasn't one.
Instead of YOU blaming others, just admit you were wrong. My current predicament is one of dealing with you and your made up friend, neither of which has a grasp on reality.
Morbidly obese people are at a higher risk of death from Covid-19 than normal people. By encouraging others to neglect their fitness, you and Daniel will have blood on your hands by the time this is over.
Get a grip
shareBy contrast, Terry Silver may have already saved thousands of lives. Those who abide by the Quicksilver method and three Ds will have strong immune systems to fight the virus.
shareExcept the only person who may follow that method is you....so thousands, really?
Again, get a grip.
Let’s see who’s still standing when this is over.
shareOh no, another bold statement that once you are proven wrong you won't admit to
shareYou’ve never proven me, or any Kai member, wrong about anything. You’ve been on the wrong side of every argument for nearly a decade. Your limited intellect has derailed you at every turn.
shareThat is called living in denial chum.
Your most recent accusation of me causing the closure of the IMDb posting boards was proven wrong. You saying otherwise is just bullshit.....a bit like your latest statement.
Now I could list more points that the Kai and myself have argued about but it would only embarrass you when you realize that you have NEVER proven me wrong. Oh, what am I thinking, you'll just pretend otherwise?
It's a shame that the only representative of the Kai on these boards is you. The Jimmy of the group!
You’ve thrown your support behind Daniel and Miyagi, ignoring their crimes while celebrating their vices. Your lack of virtue makes you a toxic presence on these boards. People like you are the reason Britain is in decline.
shareAre you lonely, is that it?
You used to get support from people like Romefan123 and sliat1981, and now you are all alone and struggling. You miss them is that it? You feel you must reignite an old feud just to give you some purpose. You can't handle it alone so you resurrect your alter-ego cruisin109, but even then you can't handle the pressure. In fact it's so bad that you have to lie and claim past glories that never were and when challenged to prove your shit you claim Britain is in decline.
Truly sad.
You’re accusing others of creating alter-egos after having admitted to doing that yourself. Unreal. You’ve been beaten senseless so many times now you’ve developed amnesia and can’t remember your past defeats. Like Daniel in front of a bowl of macaroni and cheese, you’re a rambling mess, struggling to put together a coherent string of words. Go back to Newark and nurse your wounds.
shareName one time. Just one.
I mean I just named the most recent time you were proven wrong, so I'm sure from your (ahem) long list you can name ONE!
Just saying it without backing it up with fact doesn't make it so.
As for making a person up, benosheabutters was an actual person on here. I just posted through his account (with his permission) to sell you guys a story that you wouldn't have accepted under my name. And oh how you boys accepted it, especially you...Frogclarke!
Will the "REAL" benosheabutters corroborate this claim?
Don't know if he's on moviechat NRC123
shareCruising19: How very convenient Ghost-WA.
Ghost-WA: Since I am innocent of the crime of stealing someone's identity, I find it is most decidedly inconvenient that the real benosheabutters was never found.
NRC123, I'm not sure why you think I give one single fuck whether or not you believe me. You asked, I answered. Don't believe me? Wow, there's a shocker.
You were asked to show one time, ONE, that the Kai on these boards have beaten me. What did you do? Scurried off for five days before coming back in your guise of cruisin109 and questioned the validity of my benosheabutters claim, instead of doing what was asked and proving your point.
You can't deliver, but then what's new eh?
I'm not NRC123, you are just claiming this in a lame attempt to troll the dojo.
Also, if it were true (although it's not) how come you just recently found out?
Did we really go for years fooling you?
Yes you did fool me. You played the part of two posters well and were only found out by your sloppiness.
Your Frogclarke personna would never have sent me PM's and acted all friendly and worrying if you had actually upset me. And tbh, it took another poster to point out the connection. So, hey, fair play to you NRC123....you got me. But I'm a good sport and appreciate the joke.
But you've been rumbled now. The only reason you will keep up the charade is the fact you can never admit you are wrong or you've been caught out.
ps. You still didn't answer the challenge.
You have just admitted defeat by saying you were "previously" played like a fool but don't even realize that it's actually RIGHT NOW that you're being played like a fool.
I'll take it.
Well, you just admitted that you have just admitted that you are indeed both posters.
I mean how am I being played like a fool now, you've been rumbled NRC123.
Furthermore, once again you have avoided producing any evidence where the Kai have beaten me on these boards with regards arguments over the KK movies.
I know why you are avoiding it of course. I just like twisting that knife a little further and know you are squirming.
Now fuck off and come back as your alter ego as expected.....
Your history here is a tale of tragedy, defeat and humiliation. We beat you on the message boards. We beat you at Harrods (by no show). We beat you in the courtrooms. We shall never surrender this board.
shareYou haven't given one example.
With regards Harrods, I never said I was going to be there when you offered to stand in for Romefan123, so no defeat. As for when you challenged me under your guise of cruisin109 I was there ...you weren't. You lost in the (ahem) courtrooms when your evidence was proven to be false. And finally you said you were coming to my dojo the year after imdb closed down...you no showed mistah coward!
You surrendered the board the moment you lied in your fantasy court ,dicksplash.
You should be punished for stealing the identity of benosheabutters. How very convenient he isn't around anymore... you probably had something to do with his disappearance which is why you were able to hijack his account. You will be posthumously prosecuted for this!
shareOh, fuck off you clown. Go and talk to yourself (ie NRC123)
shareCAN YOU STOP IT?!!! Asshole, cretin, moron!
shareHow do they know it's less than a month???? They left for Okinawa in June right after school prom. They got back.just before school resumed. So three months had passed. Daniel could easily have gained that weight in three months time.
shareHe’d been following Miyagi’s regimen for ten months and should have had an improved physique to show for it. His obesity and immaturity in Part III highlight the uselessness of Miyagi’s teachings, especially when compared with the discipline and fitness of Barnes and Silver. The trilogy is subtly pro Cobra Kai.
shareMiyagi has been following HIS regimen for 60 years and he doesn't appear to have a perfect physique.
Looks can be deceiving ....
Miyagi’s physique was the first red flag. Daniel should have rolled with the punches and stuck it out at Cobra Kai. Sensei Kreese would have instilled a proper sense of discipline and purpose.
shareWouldn't have worked out really.
shareBecause he lacked the desire, devotion and discipline to compete at the highest level. He was a paper champion, not unlike a certain Swindon resident.
shareWho do you know from Swindon ?
shareSome miscreant karate instructor. The lone person in 2020 to still lend support to Daniel and Miyagi.
shareSo someone from Swindon is doing this and you are telling me....why?
shareI’m referring to you, idiot.
shareI'm not from Swindon...IDIOT!
shareMeghan Markle fled England to get away from you.
shareIs that your best?
You fuck up (as usual) then come back with some Meghan Markle quip.
If that were even remotely true then guess what? Brilliant! She's an attention whore who married in to the Royal family and then couldn't tow the line. A typical hypocrite who wants public attention but complains about privacy when the attention doesn't suit her.
Good riddance to her.
Yeah, he was very visibly overweight and should've attempted to lose some weight.
shareA good point. He looked heavier at the climactic fight.
shareDaniel could have been given a computer-generated special effects makeover. That would have solved the continuity issues.
shareRound is a shape
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