If a person want their life to get better, spend your time with people who have learned to get at least some of what they want out of life
Oh God. That's literally the worst thing one of these so-called incels can do (i.e. follow a professional misogynist like Neil 'The Game' Strauss or a Tom Cruise in Magnolia type dickwad teaching young, dispirited men to treat women like shit, or at the very minimum nothing more than notches on the bed post).
By the way, as far as I'm concerned the most dangerous men in the world, are not a bunch of pathetic losers sitting in their moms' basements whining about how they'll never get a girlfriend.
The most dangerous men in the world are the likes of New York Military Academy's class of 64 'ladies man', three times married, and porn-star-humping Donald J Trump, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, and R Kelly. Men who are, or at least were, having plenty of sex. Over-sexed men are far more dangerous than under-sexed ones.
The most damage an under-sexed man can do is say hateful things on the internet (no, I don't approve but I'm speaking in relative terms here). The most damage an over-sexed man can do is commit multiple rape.
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Otter (24464)
5 years ago
"The most damage an under-sexed man can do is say hateful things on the internet"
No, the most dangerous thing an undersexed man can do is become the next Elliot Rodgers or Alek Minassian. THAT is why people regard "incels" as potentially dangerous, and worry about them getting together to express their rage and unrealistic expectations online. Just because none of them will ever kill as many people as someone who starts a war, doesn't mean there isn't cause for concern.
And once again, we're veering into things that you ought to be discussing with your therapist, not online strangers. So I'm going to quit the discussion with general advice that applies to anyone who is struggling:
If a person need to learn better coping or social skills, they will not learn them from people who cannot cope and have no social skills.
Nobody can learn how to get what they want from life, from people who are not getting what they want from life.
Do not conflate sex (or being "oversexed") with the abuse of power, sex is supposed to be about intimacy, sharing, and the acceptance of another person. If there is anyone out there who wants more intimacy, sharing, and acceptance in their life, they won't learn it from online incels, they need to learn it from people who practice sharing and acceptance in real life.
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5 years ago
Didn't Elliot Rodgers mostly, if not entirely, kill other men?
By contrast, who were Weinstein, Cosby and R Kelly's victims? Women.
As a staunch feminist, I am more fearful of the likes of men like Weinstein, Cosby and R Kelly, and other rapists, who target women, than I am of incels like Elliot Rodgers who are more likely to kill someone like me than they are a woman/girl.
And you're talking about what sex should be, not what it actually is for millions of women who are being brutalised by misogynist monsters.
No offence Otter, but I don't understand why you think incels and asexuals (I note you contemptuously described Patrick Bateman as an 'asexual' in American Psycho, even though he specifically targeted prostitutes and members of the sex trade) are worse than serial rapists and child sex abusers.
Also, don't assume I have or need a therapist (anymore than anyone else needs a therapist - really I think everyone could benefit from a therapist), but just suppose I did have a therapist, I think you're intelligent enough to know they're not a 24/7 emergency service.
Anyway, I'm not getting personal here. I'm speaking as a mostly objective observer and commentator, albeit one with strong opinions. And I'm not defending incels. I'm just baffled why a small handful of messed-up men loners like Rodgers and Minassian are considered more dangerous than the millions of, often enabled and normalised, rapists who are abusing women and girls on a daily basis.
#MeToo
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