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And you think 23 and 13 was bad?


Dennis Quaid was 35 and Winona Ryder was 18. Real-life was worse than the movie!!

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No, it isn't. The big HUGE difference is that 18 is consensual age, 13 is not.

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What are you talking about? Myra was consensual.
You are confusing "legal" with "consensual", dude.

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Yeah, but things were different then. My grandma was 13 in 1952 and she married my grandpa and he was 28. Things were just really different then.

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What about Loretta Lynn and her husband? I don't know how he was though.

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Loretta's husband, Doolittle, was 26 when they married. What's even funnier is that she became a grandmother at age 29!
That should teach you not to play with matches, and that it's much safer to play w/ urself instead.

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Yup, it was legal back in the day.

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Legal back then? There were men who got in trouble for being with underage girls like Errol Flynn and Lionel Atwill and others. You make it sound like it was normal for 13 year olds to marry 20 or 30 year olds. I didn't see every celebrity and man with an underage girl. If it was so legal and normal, how come Jerry's career went down the tubes? If it was so legal, how come he faced so much ridicule? Where is it legally written down that a 13 year old and 20 something year old can marry? I like to see it.

It's sad but quite normal for older men to be interested in young girls, we see it in the news everyday and thankfully these men get what's coming to them. Jerry Lee Lewis should thank his lucky stars he was around in a time where he got away with being with a young girl. What would people think of a Jerry Lee Lewis today if he married a 13 year old again? What if some singer today married a 13 year old because it's "normal" in the South? Most men just want to be with a young girl to control sexually. Jerry was wrong for being with a 13 year old and double wrong for being with his cousin, being with his cousin, that's wrong by itself, but I guess that's why people call them ignorant hillbilly rednecks.

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Where is it legally written down that a 13 year old and 20 something year old can marry?


In the marriage laws as they existed at that time in the various states. Not in so many words though.

Common Law, which forms the basis of the law in countries such as the U.S. and U.K., works on the principle that everything which is not specifically prohibited is, by default, legal. In many states in the 1950s, especially in the South, the marriage laws specified either a very low minimum age or had no age requirement at all.

Thus in the absence of a law saying that they may not marry, the marriage would be perfectly legal.




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msladysoul, until just a few years ago here in Texas, children as young as 12 could get married legally as long as either the girl was pregnant or the child's parent signed a permission slip. It was only changed recently when a certain large family with their own religion moved to Texas so that they could get around the laws in other states that made it illegal to marry before age 16, no matter whose permission you had.

In many states, and in many rural areas, all throughout this country, minors can still marry - some without their parents' permission. When you talk about celebrities getting in trouble for messing with underage girls, that's because they were doing just that - messing with them, not marrying them.

Pick up a history book sometime - there are many laws still on the books in many state that have never been changed. For instance, every year in MIssissippi, someone on the floor of the state legislature proposes that women be allowed to have the right to vote, since it's still on the state books that they can't, and teh vote fails every year. The legislators evidently think it's very funny.

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Things weren't that different back then? There were men who got in trouble for being with underage girls like Errol Flynn and Lionel Atwill and others. You make it sound like it was normal for 13 year olds to marry 20 or 30 year olds. I didn't see every celebrity and man with an underage girl. If it was so normal, how come Jerry's career went down the tubes? If it was so normal, how come he faced so much ridicule? Where is it legally written down that a 13 year old and 20 something year old can marry? I like to see it.

It's sad but quite normal for older men to be interested in young girls, we see it in the news everyday and thankfully these men get what's coming to them. Jerry Lee Lewis should thank his lucky stars he was around in a time where he got away with being with a young girl. What would people think of a Jerry Lee Lewis today if he married a 13 year old again? What if some singer today married a 13 year old because it's "normal" in the South? Most men just want to be with a young girl to control sexually. Jerry was wrong for being with a 13 year old and double wrong for being with his cousin, being with his cousin, that's wrong by itself, but I guess that's why people call them ignorant hillbilly rednecks.

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not nessecerily thirt-teen year olds are not children as you see the small word there "teen" which would mean myra was a teenager and what are you talking about 18 and 35 its not like they were dating on the movie set (duh!)

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sorry

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Who cares about how old they were - what about the fact that the person Winona Ryder was depicting (Myra) was Dennis Quaid's character's (Jerry Lee Lewis) cousin!

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Actually Myra was Jerry Lee Lewis' second cousin once removed. Like, gosh, get it right. xD

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what i think is a bit worse is that she says she isnt a virgin. . .

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18 consent....good thing i'm in Canada, 14 is the age of consent here.

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Have you read the book? Read it, because the movie is based on that. She wasn't a virgin, but it wasn't her decision. Her neighbour Woodall raped her.

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Get this- i once new a classmate who when she was 11 years old she dated a 21 year old!!!!! Anyway they get back together when she was 18 and got pregnant and now is married to him! Im like wow.

Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway. ;P

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There's nothing wrong with 18 and 35. Hell, I know a couple where the chick is 18 and the guy is 50, and they're the greatest couple I've ever seen. Seriously. I didn't think of JLL as a perv in the movie though, he seemed to really love his cousin, he didn't come off as a pedophile at all. I'm not saying that 13 year olds should run around with twenty somethings, because 99.9% of the time the twenty something is a creepy sex predator, but they made the love affair seem pretty innocent in this movie.

A lot of people say 'age is just a number' but few really mean it like I do.

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Yup, it was legal back in the day.
Since when does being legal equal being right?

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Since when does being 'right' have a solid definition?

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Since Friday

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Wow, I'm dropping this thread now since this topic isn't meant for ten year olds.

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most dumbest thread ever!!
You shouldn't be allowed to type





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And might I say not in the gay way..

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Those who type "most dumbest" should not throw stones, sir.


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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dumb

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dumbest

http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/DUMB

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_dumbest_a_word

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Such American shows such as
America's Dumbest Criminals
Smoking Gun's World's Dumbest Confrontations
http://ipb.quicksilverscreen.com/index.php?showtopic=152443

BUT you are the most dumb.
Mistakenly taking a word you think is wrong is akin to thinking of sleeping with an underage girl because the age gap is less than Anna Nicole's marriage.
lol you're the dumbest



..To think, I killed a cat
And might I say not in the gay way..

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Dude, "most dumbest" is grammatically incorrect. It's a double comparison. I was pointing out the irony of someone calling something 'dumb' while demonstrating how dumb they are in the process.
It's the internet. Move on.

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OMG how pedantic are you?
really? I mean really? (oops no capitals)
You just go around fixing people's grammar.
Yes it's the internet, not a English degree.
pfft

..To think, I killed a cat
And might I say not in the gay way..

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Wow, your trollish behavior has flown right over my head!
Give it up.

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Wow, I'm dropping this thread now since this topic isn't meant for ten year olds.


It is meant for infants. They would not know anything.

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In some Muslim countries, 50 year old men can marry 5 year olds and it's legal. There was this one article where a 50 something rich mayor married a 5 year old from a very poor family. On their wedding night, he couldn't fit inside her so he took a knife a sliced her vaginal opening so he could fit and have sex. She eventually bled to death and a doctor came in and examined her. Her parents didn't create a commotion, the doctor simply pronounced her dead without misdeeds. No one in the town thought there was anything wrong with what happened. I guess in their place, legal and right have their meaning.



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I pray the OP is joking...

Death Cab For Dan Rather...

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I don't see it as bad, since Myra was perfectly consensual, but it was very bad at that time, and would still be bad nowadays for society.

Boycott movies that involve real animal violence! (and their directors too)

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