Not Toned Down At All


I never got the criticisms many have for this movie that it was toned down from the original and made more kid-friendly when it really isn't looking at it. it always felt darker and scarier to me in a lot of ways and more like an outright Horror film than the original. Moments like the subway tunnel with the ghost train and heads on the stakes (IMO the most frightening moment of either movie by a landslide), the ghostly apparition of Janosz abducting Oscar, the slime oozing in the bathtub, the photo lab and many of Vigo's scenes, definitely scary and even nightmare-inducing stuff as a kid. The tone to me always felt more serious than the first for some reason which even with the Horror and end of the world aspects to it was still lighthearted and comedic.

There's also still plenty of adult and raunchy humor that certainly isn't what I'd call kiddy stuff. Egon's remark about his epididymis and Venkman's quips about "exposing ourselves" and the being Statue Of Liberty naked under the toga, not to mention the incredibly dirty joke about Egon sleeping with the slime. The mood slime itself has a weirdly sexual aspect to it too when you think about it and let's not even get started about the blatantly phallic imagery of the Slime Blowers.

The only thing about this movie that ever felt toned down to me was the brighter, cleaner look it had which is to be expected given the half-decade gap between the two and how by 1989 filmmaking technology and techniques evolved a great deal, not to mention this was the very early days of CGI. It doesn't have the same rough, slightly hazy look the original always had no but tone-wise it's not different at all. I never got the ridiculous criticism of the characters not smoking as much either since in the original they didn't even smoke all that much.

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Yes I agree, this movie wasn't kid friendly at all, I think it was a bit darker than the first movie too, especially the scenes with Peter Venkman and his flirtations with Dana. This movie was far from kid friendly.

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This one is a lot darker than the first.

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Even though the sequel took some influence from the animated series it still had the creepy feeling of the first and amped up the Horror aspects.

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I agree. I don't think this is bad. I think it's almost as good as its predecessor.

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Another thing I think gave GB2 a bit of an edge was the ghosts being more reality-based as opposed to dimensional Gods or monsters like in the original. Vigo having been a Vlad-esque tyrant and the Scoleri Brothers having been murderers and also the ghost Titanic. I think the more realistic approach to the ghosts gave it a bit of an edge.

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Though I agree GB2 isn't any more kid-friendly than the first film I wouldn't say the ghosts being "of earth" makes them more realistic. Darker, yes... but less plausible and therefore less realistic as far as I'm concerned: even in a universe of infinite possibilities I've a hard time buying into ghosts of humans (or inanimate objects like the boat & train) lingering around considering how few folks have claimed to have had run ins with them throughout history. Things from other dimensions eventually showing up on the planet... it could happen!

Oh yeah, and the Statue of Liberty wandering around after being sprayed with a bit of slime is surely the biggest stretch of reality from either film?

If you just mean GB2 is scarier I think I agree: although the concept of Gozer is a SMIDGE more believable to me... well... Stay Puft, he's cute no matter how colossal.

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I just think the ghosts being more reality-based gave them a bit of an edge whereas in the original they were more like typical monsters or evil beings from another world. Not sure if that was intentional on the filmmakers' part but it well could be.

I'd agree the Statue Of Liberty is perhaps the most "out there" moment of either movie but IMO no moreso than a 100-foot Marshmallow Man stomping through New York City. Both are outlandish sequences but I think that's part of what makes them fun. Somehow the films made them work.

I always thought a prequel comic detailing the pre-GB2 life of Vigo and even the Scoleri Brothers would be cool, if maybe too dark for something like Ghostbusters.

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It seems some of the deleted scenes made the movie even darker, like Ray's possession. Disappointed this scene has yet to surface when Ray under Vigo's influence crashes the Ecto-1A. sounds like it was intense.

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You can see aspects of it (including Venkman's reaction) in...either the musical interlude or the closing credits. Forgetting which now. Think it's the RUN-DMC number, though.

I hate losing the possession angle because it makes the ending where Vigo takes Ray's body rather than Oscar's completely nonsensical and random.

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