Ridicuosly Overated
I found nothing special or unique about this film. Probably the worst film i have seen from Gus Van Sant.
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the movie is great, I think you just didnt 'get' it.
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glad he's dead? the world would be better off without you. and as for you stero-typical label of "if your a pseudo wanna-be cool indie type." you really need to grow up and change your pathetic narrow minded perspective you idiot.
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shareHaHaHa! I wish I could rate your comment, I was thinking the same thing .Mybe he's never read A Burroughs novel? He is a much better writer than an actor and has influenced a lot of poets and writers alike. But the " pseudo-indie type" was the best. :)
share <<even the ramblings of the hollowed out flesh shell that is William S. Burroughs (I'm so glad he's dead). >>
Hey Tokyofist , why dont you ramm that fist of yours up your rectum where it belongs, then go watch Star Wars and leave the ramblings of Burroughs to those who have moved out from their mothers basement.
Your critique of Mr Burroughs was a bit harsh. At first I agreed with you (somewhat)that he has no business in front of the camera, directing the character "Father Murphy" should have been good enough for the old man. However, in hindsight,Burroughs is perfect! The ultimate man to play Father Murphy,that painfully slow delivery of his lines and, his concentration on drugs as the main topic of his dialogue was brilliant. It revealed that his life was 98% 'wasted' and self serving. He was a legend,... "they say, he shot a million bucks worth of junk into himself". Well, that in itself should let you see he is a legend for all the wrong reasons,but a legend none the less. If you are remembered for anything in life, it should be something "good". I think he was being himself & that speaks volumes of the perils of an existence on Earth dedicated to drug use and maintaining "that" lifestyle. At least it's an Ethos. In the end of one of his little observations he confides in "Bobby" that narcotics have been systematically scapegoated and demonized,in order to use the pharmacies with the 'doctors' is true especially today! "The idea that anyone can use drugs and escape a horrible fate, is anathema to these idiots." He goes on to suggest that "they" will use this demonization of narcotics to set up an "international police apparatus" as a "final solution to the drug problem" Wow! Powerful stuff, Father (Burroughs) Murphy. I really liked this movie, warts and all, a good look at the soft underbelly of our upside down world, How "Big Pharma",now, in almost total control of the population, is finally coming to fruition. Call it a "New world order" if you like, but it's defining the very way the common new world man is coming about.George Orwell was so very close in his novel, "1984". "Ignorance is strength"...etc..."We have always been at war with"...(blank),& so it goes. At least the "proles" seemed happy.This movie really showed a street level view of what is happening to our world if we stay on "our meds". It's really all about control isn't it? Slavery brought about by control of Money, food, human rights,& our dignity ultimately? This movie will go down as a classic. It's one of my favorites.
shareI think this film can primarily be appreciated by current or former drug users, kinda like reqiuem for a dream. I saw both, i liked both, but I've never really been into drugs, I cant relate to the characters and thats why i think i didnt love these movie so much. but they were okay.
shareI've never done anything but smoke a little bit of week in college, and I love this movie. Anyone who can only like a movie if it has characters just like them, who are living lives just like theirs, has a fatal lack of imagination, or is hopelessly self absorbed, and probably both. What an incredibly restricted view of life and art you must have. Couldn't be many movies that you like. What I like about the movie is how it brilliantly recreates a subculture that I is hidden from most of mainstream culture, and does it in a matter of fact way without a lot of kneejerk moralizing (same reasons that I love "Boogie Nights" . The fact that it is so far from my own life is what I find fascinating. And I actually can relate to why people in living a dreary, dead end existence would want to spend most of their time on drugs, I just choose to enliven my life in a different, less self destructive way.
shareThank you! It IS ridiculously overrated! I've read so much about this movie, about how it's a lost gem, doesn't get the appretiation it deserves, blah blah, but i just watched it last night, and i was soooo disappointed.
The story sucks, the characters are badly shaped. For instance, at the beginning monologue, Bob says Nadine had a smile that caught them all off guard, then all they ever do is fight, there's absolutely no sign of them getting along. And the cop's character, while mean, he really doesn't mean any harm, and actually grows attached to Bob by the end of the story, yet Bob still calls him a bastard. Dianne's character is too dominant to get together with a retard like Rick, and so on.
The story is overall flat, no big values are lost, there's practically nothing to want back, nothing to regret.
I'm sorry, but this probably is Gus Van Sant's worst.
And for anyone who might reply with i didn't get it, or i can't appreciate it, i've had my share of drug abuse, and the reason why i was so disappoined with this flick was that i had just that: four crazy kids on pharms who at one point thought they owned the world, and after that it all fell apart. And while fiction is usually so much more intense and fun then reality, i'm sorry to say that this is a lousy case of art immitating life: my experiences during that period of my life have been a lot more wondruous and extatic and painful than anything this movie portays.
"For instance, at the beginning monologue, Bob says Nadine had a smile that caught them all off guard, then all they ever do is fight, there's absolutely no sign of them getting along."
The great thing about this is that he is telling the monologue after everything in the movie had happened. So he didn't notice how great Nadine was until she died, or maybe he didn't think she was that great but he was looking at it with romantic eyes.
ridiculously UNDER-rated
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I just got this film today. So I'm going to check it out.
Put as far as the overrated word "overrated" goes, I really don't hear a lot of people praising this film. Not that it isn't good or anything, just I don't hear people talk about it that much.
Definitely not the worst Van Sant film but not that great either. SPOILERS: Right off you knew the David character was going to shoot Matt Dillon and that Heather Graham would OD and Dillon's girl would leave him to stay on dope and his best friend would take over (which ended up happening off-camera). Not a lot of suprises and not a lot to care about in these characters. I liked Dillon's character alright once he started to get clean but he was too much of a selfish idiot for me to think much of prior to that. And once he got clean, well.. not much happened. A few shots of his job, a few shots of the cop that busted him, and a few shots of Williams S. Burroughs. It was fun seeing Burroughs though, even if his performance was so bad it was distracting.
share"Anyone who can only like a movie if it has characters just like them, who are living lives just like theirs, has a fatal lack of imagination, or is hopelessly self absorbed, and probably both."
I couldn't agree more. You nailed it.
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