does anyone else think it's weird that, in the end, alex ends up with his "daughter"? and cybil shepherd's character is completely okay with it, knowing what she knows? that kind of threw a wrench in the works for me.
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But that one guy gave him his shot which erases his memory so he does not know. Cybil shepherd just doesnt care cause now she is with Phillip. She has no morales.
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Yeah, I find it sort of weird too. It actually sort of freaks/grosses me out when Alex ends up w/ his "daughter" even though they are physically related. Maybe Cybil Shepard's character thinks it is romantic or something that her dead husband ends up w/ her daughter since she knows he is a good guy.
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i havent seen this movie in a while, but i will say this: it isnt that wierd since 1. It's only his soul that is in the Alex's body...it's not like he was reborn into this body...he just has his conciousness in the body. 2. Cybill knows that it's not his body and that Alex was in love with his daughter even before they met, so it would be unfair to have him still longing for Cybill and 3. His memory was erased, so he is completely Alex now...no more of the other guy!
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i dont know, i always thought it was kind of sick, because technically, alex does end up with his 'daughter'. i know it's the daughter of his past person or whatever, but still... anyway, i cant imagine miranda didnt figure out it was her dad, after all philip was going, 'it is louie, isn't it' and alex was having all those weird 'remembering fits'. i think knowing that the guy i love is my dad in a way would kind of turn me off.
shareI dunno, I think it would be a lot weirder for the daughter to find her mom remarrying the guy that she's in love with. They'd all get into a big fight and the whole thing would turn into some kind of twisted Jerry Springer episode.
Though... I'm still trying to figure out why they never developed the photos in the camera. If she was so attached to her dead husband, you'd think she would want to try to find more pictures of him.
And why is the daughter so excited after hearing her mom just had sex. That was a little creepy...
Anyways, just nitpicks. =) Pretty enjoyable movie throughout
It's not "his" daughter. Alex had his own life until someone elses memories were awakened in him. The mum and phillip realise that after the accident that louis is gone and has left alex. After the injection there is no louis, he'll live on in his daughter. I think this is how we are supposed to interpret it. Is a wee bit creepy though
shareThis is in response to an earlier post. Actually, I think that the father was reborn as Alex though w/o his memories. Basically, it's the same soul w/ amnesia, I guess in that sense, he is a diff person.
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It´s completely weird! Never like that ending, completely creepy even with any justify answer about that the character of Downey jr is no longer the father...
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the dna would be different so that makes it ok with me. but then i'm an incestual bastard.
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At first I thought it was weird, then after thinking more about I changed my mind. Alex is not physically Louie, and when he remembers he is Louie he doesn't want to be with Miranda for that reason. After he gets his shot, his memory of Louie leaves him, and he only thinks that he is Alex. It isn't Alex's fault that he was reincarinated. The movie explains that we search out the people from our past lives and want to be with them forever. Miranda's mother Corinne probably has no problem with Alex because she knows he is a good man and will take care of her daughter well.
shareI agree with Paris4242... I kind of had a problem with it at first, but only when Alex knew who he had been. I also kind of viewed it as Alex liking Miranda first, and his memories interfering with that. And to me... that was the real story there. Because Alex and Corinne only clung to each other because of their past memories-- the true test of true love would be to see if they would fall in love again with his memory wiped, which the movie lead us to believe they wouldn't. You can see this in the way they would fight when he'd act different. So, because of that, I was okay with it.
Also, the way I viewed it is that we're all connected, 'you meet someone you don't like, it's probably your mother in law.' So, I mean, Alex and Miranda-- they were attracted to each other because they were 'common souls' not father/daughter but souls that were connected. Before that, maybe Alex and Miranda had been in love? Maybe Louie's daughter had the soul of a past love of his, before he was Louie? That's the thing, you don't know. And it doesn't really matter because it's not important, it's not about father/daughter but about love going on and souls staying connected. The connection isn't defined as related/not related, but just connected, period.
That's the point of the film, to me. Personally if you're creeped out that much by it it says more about you than the film. *shrug* Biologically they are not related, and if you eliminate that and break it down to pure love, there's nothing creepy about it.
I, for one, agree with chris_mac_cam. It's made clear in the movie that it is the same soul, but in a different body. The loss of the memories doesn't make Alex/Louie a different person deep down, it just changes his perception since he isn't inhibited by the knowledge of his previous incarnation. So, even though he and his daughter aren't of the same kin and it wouldn't literally be incest when they hooked up, it is still pretty twisted, since I don't think that such a physical formality should matter. She should still be his daughter by soul, which would make the whole idea of them marrying rather twisted.
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I would agree that it is basically two people. I know it's one soul but Alex IS NOT LOUIS. They had two different lives they were different people. Alex clearly cared for Miranda way before anythign else. When Alex sees Corinne the first time he had no interest in her at all. He shrugged her off like it was nothing. I think we are just suppose to believe it was like someone coming back and finishing undone things. The memory of Louis came back to fix the past problems.
Alex should not have to suffer or be thought of as sick because that is not his daughter. Once the memory is erased he can continue being Alex.
I do think they should have tried to clear that up a bit, maybe a little flawed in the writing but I guess we are suppose to go with it. I think it's awesome how much Alex loves Miranda. I think Corinne and Phil know that Louis is now really gone forever.
Personally I would have wrote it as Louis can enter the memory of another person but he is not that person. Not the same soul because remember in the beginning Alex was being born as they spoke....does that mean he would have been born without a soul if Louis would have been 1 minute later...no. I think of it more as two souls one body. Alex is Alex and Louis is just there trying to relive his former life.
Does that make any sense?
it is weird even if he has no memory of it and is not physically related to her the fact is it is the soul of her father. now could you image 40 years of sleeping with your daughter and you get to heaven and remember this.
the only way this is ok is if his soul was like a restored computer deleting memory and being replaced with blank slate. which in my book is killing a soul