Bob the Goon


I liked Bob and Joker's chemistry and was quite gutted when Joker callously killed him, why? He was his most loyal sidekick

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The actor who played Bob the goon was already a friend of Nicholson and it's said that Nicholson insisted on him being given the part so that helps with chemistry.

My impression is the script resolved to have the Joker kill Bob at that point to show that the Joker had lost patience with any sense of loyalty, morality and restraint. In film terms, it's also shocking, even though also potentially slapstick comical. The Joker had had his balloons taken away "He stole my balloons" and, like a disappointed child at a party, someone had to pay the Partyman - the person he'd counted on to protect his crazy dream. Bear in mind that the Prince song 'Trust' had just played. Trust was vital to him, particularly after Grissom's betrayal. Something to bear in mind is that the Joker is technically a child at this point because he was created maybe a few days ago. Prior to that, he'd been someone else - Jack Napier. That chemical dunking was like a baptism for a new person, albeit with vestiges of the old one. So, despite what the Joker claimed to Bob, "You are my number one", that's not necessarily as true as it was about Jack Napier's view of Bob. Bob doesn't even seem particularly artistic (was he even at the art gallery?)- no wonder he was expendable to The Artist Formerly Known As Napier.

(ps after that, if you look at him beckoning Batman's plane, it's masterful acting to me. "Come on you son of a.." The Joker sounds like manic joy has gone from his mind - at that moment anyway - and he needs a conclusion. It's quite moving imo when he's desperately pulling out joke glasses and joke teeth fall to the floor. And because he's without Bob, just reliant on heavies, he's in a weaker position. He forced a conclusion on himself by going up the belltower).

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Yeah, that makes perfect sense tbh, I just felt bad for Bob, even Joker's "Gonna need a moment alone, boys" seemed disingenuous

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Bob doesn't even seem particularly artistic (was he even at the art gallery?)


Yes, he was there. Bob is about to slash a morbid looking painting with a large knife and Joker stops his knife with a cane and says "I kind of like this one, Bob."

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I loved that line!





All for a box of chocolates...

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There was an action figure of Bob as part of the Toybiz line of figures based on the 1989 Batman film.

http://www.poeghostal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bob-goon-batman-toybiz-packaging.jpg

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Yeah I had that figure, 2 Batmans, Joker and Vicki Vale

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Bob doesn't even seem particularly artistic (was he even at the art gallery?)- no wonder he was expendable to The Artist Formerly Known As Napier.

As another user pointed, Bob was indeed at the museum's art gallery as Joker and his goons vandalized it. Bob didn't partake in the vandalizing of it for the most part. He also did bring in Alicia to the table so that Joker could show Vicki the 'new piece' that he did.

Bob did seem to like taking pictures with that camera a lot, it seemed to me like he had an artistic spirit in him.

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Tracey Walter is a great character actor, who has been in a ton of the most iconic movies of all time, you almost forget.




Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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Yep, i remember him being bothered by Tom Hanks' Aids riddled presence in the library in "Philadelphia".

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I like Bob, but I've always found that to be perhaps the funniest movie in the movie. It's so random and true to the mercurial nature of the Joker.

Originality needs a reboot.

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It's foreshadowed that the Joker is going to throw Bob under the bus somehow when he gives him the same phony "#1 guy" pep talk as Grissom.

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Well spotted tenantennae. I always thought that was a weirdly creepy pep talk from The Joker to an ally and now it makes sense - it's as he's being an automoton of Grissom, as if The Joker is trying to reclaim 'the upper hand' by becoming the unsincere one. However Napier was having an affair with Alicia so I won't pretend that Grissom was necessarily the sole cause of The Joker becoming unsincere but 'Trust', as the Prince song goes, is on his mind. When things go wrong he sometimes momentarily sounds like a frightened child before gangster kicks in.

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Exactly what I said...

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It's just a recurrence of events earlier in the film... Jack was Carl's #1 guy but he did something that made him unhappy, so he tried to kill him. When The Joker tells Bob "you're my number 1 guy", he's merely mocking the betrayal that happened to him. So it's only a matter of time before Bob gets it.

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You'd think that Bob would have suspected something when the Joker addressed him as such.

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