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Hate This Movie - Gives False Hope to Fat People


As an arguably decent looking guy, I've been getting hit on by fat women all my life. When I saw this movie recently for the first time on some late-nite USA cable channel, I wanted to go Elvis on my tv. It's crap movies like this that have made me pratically run from the obese women it inspires. Totally unrealistic.

I'm not trying to offend any larger women out there but, come on, get real.

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Actually, there are men (and women) out there who do look past someone's weight. I know a couple handsome men who've married overweight women and vice versa. And in the movie, Grace is not ugly. Sure, she is heavy but when she actually fixes herself up with make-up and nice clothes, she is fine looking. It's people like you that are the problem....not this movie. Maybe you should be looking beyond the external when you meet someone.

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I think plus size women are usually HOT. So I don't have to look beyond their appearance. My wife is a size 18 and she is smokin!

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I think any realistic person understands their limitations. I know there are plenty of guys out there I probably have little to no chance with. Not because of looks only, but because of things like interests and intellect. I am considered plus size and I have in fact had a few good-looking guys ask me out. Shallow Hal syndrome. By that I mean, they had been with pretty girls who were pretty ugly on the inside. I am by no means unattractive, but my weight can be considered a factor by some why I would not be asked out by certain people, however there are people who can like others for who they are and not necessarily what they look like.

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Well there aren't too many guys out there into skinny girls, me included. On occasion, I have found some plus-sized girls to be beautiful people with great personalities. What scares me are the desperate-looking ones like the one portrayed by Ricki Lake (our opinions may differ on this).
My thing is, if the woman is confident in herself and KNOWS she's beautiful, regardless of her weight, than that can transend a lot of things. A girl who's overweight and unhappy with herself (and won't do anything about her appearance to make herself feel more self-confident), trying to latch onto some guy who'll love her 'for who she is', just doesn't do it for me.

Anyway, if I saw someone like Ricki Lake's character coming after me, I'd take off in the other direction.

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Nothing wrong with wanting to be loved for who you are. I personally am not into jumping through hoops for people. I did that a lot at one time and it had nothing really to do with my weight, just general confidence issues. And to tell the truth it took me a long time to figure out it was getting me nowhere. I was trying to be things I wasn't necessarily and I wasn't happy. There are people who want to tell me I would be able to get any guy I want if I was more into makeup and clothes (and lost weight). But the "girly" thing never really appealed to me. I like to wear jeans and t-shirts. If someone can't appreciate that then maybe it isn't worth it. I'm never going to be a girly girl type and I may lose a few pounds here and there, but for the most part I will probably always be the weight I am now. I don't "latch on" to anyone. I follow the three strikes rule. If after three attempts to connect with someone (romantically or friendship) they aren't that enthusiastic about me I move on.

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I think that was the whole point of this movie. Grace was unhappy with herself in the beginning. Other people constantly put her down...including her step-mother. So yes, she had self-esteem issues. Later in the movie, she learns to be happy with who she is. She was going to be happy with herself and make something of her life even after Rob left her. She didn't know that he was going to come back at that point, but she was still confident in herself and it showed...which is partly why Rob was able to notice her in the subway station. she stood out because of her confidence in herself. That is the whole point of the movie. You don't have to look like a size two model to be happy with who you are. That was the lesson that Grace eventually learned.

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Well maybe it's unrealistic to a shallow person but hey I've always had a fetish for chubby guys :)

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