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This is one of the worst and cheesiest films I have ever seen.

posted 7 years ago by frankzappayay
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I don't understand how peoples opinions can vary so drastically. To me this was a really bad film with very few redeeming features. If it was described as a film for young children I might have lowered my expectations, but I thought it was going to be like Alien or something but underwater.

What I got was the campiest and cheesiest and most ridiculous mess of a film I've ever seen. It looks like Alien most of the time, but it is basically E.T.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

I disagree and if you think this is the campiest and cheesiest movie ever then you haven't seen a lot of movies LOL! What made you think this would be like Alien? I don't get why people expected that. If you want an underwater Alien watch Leviathan or Deep Star Six because this isn't your cup of tea!

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I'm guessing you did not FIRST see it on a huge screen back in 1989? It was REALLY EPIC back then. Everything ages.

[–] Washingtonnative (2613) 5 years ago

I did!

[–] janoss (206) 6 years ago

The aliens are hardly even in it until the end. The water alien in the rig was second to none at the time in terms of quality.
It's mostly about people working under water and about how bad humans can be to each other and how good they can be to each other.

If you don't like it, cool. I don't like Black Panther, but everyone else does so that's OK. It's just not my favorite. Just don't shit in other peoples cereal if they like something you don't.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 6 years ago

The Abyss is primarily an action movie with science-fiction overtones. As such, it is both great fun and very impressive. The OP seems to have confused Alien, which was horror dressed up as sci-fi, with Cameron’s Aliens, which was flat-out action with a passion (“Get away from her you BITCH!”), and CREATED the character of Ripley the Warrior. The logistics of shooting the underwater scenes in The Abyss were unprecedented. Cameron created mammoth tanks on a studio soundstage. The crew spent hours underwater every day. Cameron has always been a pioneer in the field of digital FX and CGI. Without the water-tentacle in The Abyss, there would have been no T-1000 in Terminator 2: Judgement Day. Cheesy? A bravura technical achievement driven by the relationships between the characters and not by bunnyrabbit-out-of-the-hat “twists.” A bad film? Hey, OP, pal-o’-mine, Ed fucking Harris don’t make no bad films. As they might say aboard the Deepcore Explorer, “Go soak your head.”

Your username is a disgrace to the man who created The Mothers of Invention.

[–] Lampedusean (498) 5 years ago

It's clear that frankzappayay didn't understand.

[–] PaladinNJ (20309) 5 years ago

I think it's clear he didn't see it.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Opinions like this is why we can't have good sci-fi but instead get cheap shoot 'em ups with aliens instead.

[–] aavfreak (2861) 5 years ago

Gone are the days of good storytelling and clever plot. In their place stands endless chase scenes and fight scenes with guns that shoot 1000 rounds without needing to be reloaded.

[–] moviechatterer (13270) 3 years ago

no, In their place stands endless Marvel and DC superhero shite

[–] aavfreak (2861) 3 years ago

That's what I said. :)

"endless chase scenes and fight scenes"

On that note, I was watching some older movies (Total Recall, for example) and it was shocking to me how graphic so much of it was. Arms being torn off and blood splatter and all that.

For all of the violence (and death) in MCU, there are never any open wounds. No blood. No dismemberment. Just some scratches and dirty faces on characters dying like they're going to sleep.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Stick to your Michael Bay robot films then. Problem solved.

[–] JoWilli (15109) 3 years ago

it was cutting edge in 1989, some movies dont hold up, like space odyssey 2001...

[–] huwdj (4562) 3 years ago

I think this is a great movie and if they tried to film it now it would look pretty much the same - or probably worse because they wouldn't be able to resist enveloping it with over the top CGI.

[–] Owlwise (1489) 3 years ago

2001 holds up for all times, because it's a masterpiece.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 3 years ago

Thank you! JoWilli needs to stay in the Politics cesspool.

[–] brux (14666) 3 years ago

Do you mean -
- some movies dont hold up, like space odyssey 2001 ( 2001 doesn't hold up )
or -
- some movies dont hold up like space odyssey 2001 ( 2001 is a model of films which hold up )

[–] Owlwise (1489) 2 years ago

I'll go with:

- some movies don't hold up like space odyssey 2001 (2001 is a model of films which hold up)

Plenty of films made today don't hold up to 2001, for that matter.

[–] aavfreak (2861) a year ago

LOL

- Let's eat, Grandpa (suggesting to Grandpa that we eat a meal)
or -
- Let's eat Grandpa (suggesting we consume Grandpa as a meal)

[–] maul (1530) 3 years ago

4 year old post, and as embarrassing as ever. Basically, every movie on this site has to have at least one mandatory contrarian saying "the movie sucked", even if it's an underrated masterpiece like The Abyss.

[–] brux (14666) 2 years ago

A lotta movies do really suck ... probably the majority of them.

I always liked the Abyss, but I thought the ending was poorly done.