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Beetlejuice and Lydia...more then friends?


I actually didn't think about this show until I actually saw a Beetlejuice t-shirt at Hot Topic. And my boyfriend finished downloading some episodes earlier today and it got me to thinking again...Did Lydia and BJ have a thing for each other? I mean when I was little and I used to watch the show regliously, I always thought that Lydia and BJ were boyfriend and girlfriend. I mean, I think the show hints at it in the "Crazy Sitter" episode where at the beginning BJ is "talking" to the viewer saying that Lydia told him to buy her a gift because "Its been a year since they met so its their one year anniversary." I mean really, who celebrates a one year anniversary with their friends? I don't know any body that does, usually one year anniversays are celebrated by couples. So...any thoughts posters?

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I never thought of that before. It's been years since I've seen the show, I think there was some fanarts and music videos on them as a couple, but I think they were just close friends. It would be weird to celebrate an anniversary with friends. That's only for couples.

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Yeah or the episode where Beetlejuice refuses to apologize for something he did wrong and Lydia got so mad she decided to stop talking to him until he apologized and when they were off in their own worlds they were both crying over what happened. I would understand if that happened between two girls but when its a guy and girl and they're both crying, you just think its something more.

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I was never quite sure, either. I mean, Beetlejuice is obviously an adult while Lydia is at least 12...so that confused me. But I like to think they might have strange little feelings for each other underneath the friendship. Necrophilia AND pedophilia!

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Necropedophilia FTW!


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12? Are you sure Lydia was 12? Cause if she is, I don't think she be falling in love with someone older like Beetlejuice is. Cause I know in the movie she was older than that when Winona Ryder was young back in the 80s.

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In the movie scripts, Lydia's age varied between 14-16. I think she was supposed to be about 16 or so; Beetlejuice's age kind of becomes moot when you consider that he's essentially immortal, being dead and all.

I always envisioned a proper series finale being akin to "Puff the Magic Dragon." Beetlejuice was Lydia's "imaginary" friend, who provided her a respite from the real world and a means of coping with the ills of adolescence. But eventually she's going to grow up and there will be less and less time for BJ and the Neitherworld. No matter how wild and wacky the Neitherworld is, it isn't Lydia's world; she's just a tourist, and eventually all tourists have to go home. I wanted a final episode to show Lydia and Beetlejuice drifting apart, with Lydia finally realizing that it was time for BJ to go home for good; and the series ending with her chanting his name three times, for the last time.

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I was little when I got into this show (the movie was too scary at the time) and loved it, but even then I picked up on a subtle romance between the two. I even put it in some BJ scripts I wrote a few years later.

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Some friends may do that, but you have to remember that in Lydia's case, she was always an outcast. Meanwhile, there was a chance for something to be between them, as while it's an alternate world from the movie-in the movie they were engaged as part of a bargain to help the Maitlands. Making the Western episode where the Bull tries to marry her the second time Lydia was almost forced into marriage, later Prince Vince also proposed to Lydia (if I remember correctly) but she politely refused and friend-zoned him. I do like to think of the two of them as a couple, especially after the episode where she "seduced" him while in disguise after he became mayor and let the power go to his head.

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When I was younger and watched the show, I always thought Lydia was his girlfriend too.

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That was always my assumption, though it is strange with him being much older…and dead…and all…

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Ugh, brings back awful memories of scouring the internet for Beetlejuice clips/info(YEARS before this stuff was readily available on youtube/torrents) and stumbling across a weirdo het fanfic for the show.

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I for one have always thought so. I'm not really much into "shipping" as much as other people (my wife especially) but as far as these two go, they are what she would call my "OTP" or One True Pairing.

They match perfectly. They benefit each other immensely. She is his conscience and he is her confidence. I don't see him really giving a lick of spit about anyone else other than her, relationship or otherwise, if they'd never met. And I really don't see her settling down with some otherwise "normal" human.

At least as I like to think of it, during the "show" they are simply the best of friends, who come to care deeply about each other. When she gets older, they come to realize just how much. Sounds corny and overused, yeah, I know, but that's what I see for them.

Look for the fanfiction story "Time will Tell". I prefer to think of their relationship evolving that way, starting around her 20th birthday. That story was written by someone whom you know loved the animated series as much as we do, as there are frequent off-the-cuff references to events from the series and the characters pretty much fit their personalities.

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Currently re-watching some of these eps on YouTube, I kept thinking, why would a long time dead, seen it all guy, living in the cool Netherworld, be so fascinated to have the company of an isolated (although bonus points for her being outre)suburban young girl?

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Bartle's response almost just brought me to tears. Nooo... I'm a huuuuuge fan of that OTP!! That would have been enough to get me to stop watching my box set for years out of the sadness and heartbreak.

And yes, guys, they were a couple in the cartoon. Lydia even still has and wears her wedding ring on and off in some episodes. I have proof here on my phone, but not sure where I could upload it where everyone can see.

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Surely the Satanists/Occultists who made Beetlejuice such Tim Burton and Danny Elfman would never do a show that implies a young girl fornicates with the spirits of the dead at night....Would they???

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