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Expected a little more...


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Just rented this...never saw it in the 80s.

While I agree with most of what other posters have said - solid acting, dialogue, style - I guess I expected a little more from this film. Seemed a bit anti-climactic, and I couldn't believe Kurt Russell's character shot J.T. Walsh's character in the back...seemed *really* ballsy - too ballsy to escape unscathed. Perhaps there's an implication here that Kurt Russell's character's going to take a fall to save the life of Gibson's character? I don't know how he could make a story stick in the face of an investigation...shooting an officer in the back during an altercation.

It didn't strike me as particularly romantic either...seemed an interesting exploration of a relationship between two friends who ended up on opposing sides, yet blurred that line in order to remain friends. It seemed like there was a lot of back story involving Gibson & Pfeiffer that we missed. I didn't get enough character development on either of them really to know why they liked each other.

Interesting premise, but I also had a little difficulty believing in Mel Gibson's character as a drug dealer. He seemed too genuinely honest, too much of a family guy with too much to lose.

Anyone else?

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I have to agree with you on some of your points. The movie has great dialogue. Snappy without the feeling of it sounding too "written". The three leads are excellent though I agree Gibson as a drug dealer is a rather romanticized portrayal, it still works. The locations and cinematography by Conrad Hall sets the perfect sun-drenched Los Angeles atmosphere.

Unfortunately the ending falls apart. After a couple of viewings, most of it made sense but a lot of it feels contrived with characters double crossing each other and other characters revealing their true motives rang false. It all seemed tacked together and unconvincing.

But I still love the movie's old-fashioned style which takes its time to build characters through dialogue rather than today's style of shoot-outs and car crashes to pull a story along.

Say what you want about movies from eighties, a lot of them were at least written and geared towards an adult audience and contained real adult characters and situations.

Movies today are generally geared to a youthful audience and even when they feature actors in their early-mid thirties (which was the age range of the Tequila Sunrise cast at the time) they somehow come across as playing to that younger crowd behaving as grown-up looking kids in the process.

Any thoughts?

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therealmusashi, though you wrote this 3 years ago and probably will not see this post, I had to respond. Yours is one of only a few critical posts I've read where you get your points across without trashing it. What's more, I agree with so many of your assessments. For me though, this is a great film. A lot of the areas that seemed grey were not a problem for me as the meat of the story is what made this film work for me. I watched it many times and unfortunately nothing is cut and dry and you end up having to draw your own conclusions. Here is my take one the things you've questioned. I share my opinion because I had the same questions.

I think as shooting Maguire in the back was certainly ballsy as you stated and I can only conclude he did it to save Mac. He could have shot him in the leg, however Maguire had too much to lose himself and Nick knew a mere injury wouldn't stop him. Evenso, you are correct, Nick would have a hard time selling this.

I also agree that there was a backstory between Mac and Joann that we were not seeing. There was a point in the movie where Maguire was listen to past conversations in which Mac was talking to Joann about a ski trip he went on (you catch little things after watching it several times). I'd say their flirtation was going on for quite a while. In my opinion, Joann felt Mac lived a dangerous and morally corrupt life and no matter how attracted to him she was she wouldn't put herself in that position. But with that said, I also feel Joann had to have developed feelings for him during this time because it was too easy for her to just throw Nick in the wind once Mac convinced her he was out of the business.

And for your last point, I agree 100%! Anyone in organized crime has to be pretty tough. Mac certainly didn't LOOK the part. But with that said, we do know he was in a Mexican prison and can only assume there is a tougher interior we don't see.

So to answer my own questions, I began a project back in 1998, 10 years after this movie was made. What started as fan fiction for me turned into 7 seasons of what could (or could have) become a TV show. It started as six episodes revolving around the movie, but developing all the characters (and even adding a few) more. From there it went foward but flashed back showing what got Mac into the life, the struggles of getting out (because remember "no one wants you to quit"...that line alone implies there's more than meets the eye where Mac's business is concerned). I didn't really focus on the back story of Mac and Joann, but made in known that it existed in the first 6 episodes and just developed the characters more showing their attraction more obvious and putting them in more situations together before the birthday party. I focused on how he and Nick took separate paths and ultimately became estranged. I made the character Woody a stronger presence by developing his character showing him to be equal friends to both Mac and Nick and the glue that holds the bonds of their childhoods together. And in my story Maguire survives and continues to pursue Mac. There is much more and many more characters arise as the story goes on. The cool thing is that the plot has so many possibilities that this movie just scratched the surface.

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